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August 29, 2003 1.5 out of 5
Sandeep A Lal
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By Sundeep A Lal

The euphoria of India's emphatic 7-4 win over Pakistan in the classic clash of the hockey titans in the Champions Trophy in Amsterdam buried an explosive incident.

In the match on Aug 22, Indian fans encroached on to the pitch in what has bizarrely been accepted by certain quarters as part of the game.

It's a culture, they say, and part of merry-making and jubilation especially when traditional rivals India and Pakistan play.

The Hindu had reported: When the hooter went, enthusiastic supporters jumped the barricade, and rushed into the pitch to greet the Indians giving the security guards a tough time.

But the reporter shockingly leads us to believe that the incident was acceptable, writing: " It was a scene that every hockey loving Indian was fortunate enough to behold. What a spectacle it was with the crowds etched against the background of this beautiful, rustic Wagener Stadium."

Seems like the media supports pitch invasion as this writer poetically captured the scenes of jubilation against the backdrop of the stadium.

There was not a word about this unhealthy scene of fans storming the pitch in other reports, except one, which said enthusiastic Indian fans invaded the pitch as if they had won the World Cup.

I am now wondering if the FIH or the host organizers had requested the media not to pursue the matter.

What action has the FIH taken against the hosts for the incident? Have the tournament officials, stadium security or the police given their report on the incident?

We should deplore the actions of the people who invaded the pitch instead of accepting it as a culture.

Let us not forget that it was an explosive match from the start and there were several heated moments on the pitch as well, fuelling emotions to hit feverish levels.

I will probably get hate mail and be slammed for bringing the pitch invasion into focus when everybody still talks about the classic encounter between the arch-rivals.

Yes, it is a great pity that my attention falls on the actions of the errant individuals who put the safety of the players and match officials at great risk.

This is always a concern and I do believe it is only a matter of time before a serious injury occurs on the field during such an invasion.

Die-hards will argue that this is in the culture of hockey in India and Pakistan for fans to run on at the end of a match.

In fact, they will go one step further to say that players and officials should get off the ground quickly.

If that's the attitude, then you are only licensing people  no matter how unruly they are - who don't like someone to have a free rein to do what they want.

I am sad that hockey's governing body failed to address the issue in Amstelveen.

The FIH appear not to recognise the problem. If they were concerned, they would have issued a press statement to the effect and indicate what action they are planning.

In Australia, it is a criminal offence for fans to come onto the playing arena as it is in England for fans to invade football pitches.

But the relevant legislation does not extend to hockey, or does it?

Cricket appears to ignore the matter, and fans even come onto the outfield for post-match presentation ceremonies as an accepted part of the game.

Is it time for the FIH to introduce an independent crowd safety observer?

Reporters in Amstelveen played down the scenes, perhaps naively attributing them to high spirits associated with the highly-anticipated derby game.

One reporter told me the Aug 22 incident could not be classified as pitch invasions. It was just a party, just merry-making.

He gleefully added that it happens all the time when India or Pakistan wins a match not necessarily when they play each other. The fans come on the pitch at a moment of great excitement.

In Amstelveen, those who encroached on to the pitch were fans sheer jubilation. This was not an invasion where fans were fighting each other or were attacking players.

In my opinion, it was an invasion and the incident should be treated seriously by the FIH.

Steps must be taken such as appointing a FIH crowd safety observer at major events.

Heavy fines should be imposed on host organizers who fail to provide adequate security measures.

But let's not dwell too long on this issue as the sooner we rid our sport of such incidents, the quicker the appeal of hockey will grow.

The Champions Trophy had wide TV coverage and the last thing we want now is for hockey to be branded negatively.
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official
08-31-2003  3:05 am
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g'day
Thought-provoking article. This issue of pitch invasion has been left idle for some strange reason and it is time the FIH rose to tackle the problem.

I have been to many countries for hockey tournaments and have seen more than once hundreds of people storming the pitch.

Officilas I spoke to after the incidents brushed it off, saying nothing would have happened and that it was a normal sight.

What do you think goes through the minds of young people at stadiums watching such incidents?

The only way I think we can put an end to all this is by imposing a fine on the hosts of the MCT in Amstelveen.

Then, things will start falling into place as other hosts will employ strict security.
brad
09-01-2003  4:30 am
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Sundeep, I may not like you, but for once I think you have made some sense in your article. I just have to say I hated you for your attacks on the german development team at the MCT.

on pitch invasion, I wonder what the FIH will do as this is Madam Els's homeground. I doubt she will pursue the matter with the Netherlands Hockey people as she wants their vote for the next elections and support in all the ridiculous decisions the FIH is making these days.

As for the media, all of us know that Indian reporters think they are the best around. With their old language, sometimes making no sense at all with their odd use of words, they make a mockery of incidents and events, like the pitch invasion bit.

i cant for the life of me understand why The Hindu reporter felt the ugly scene of fans storming the pitch was picturesque.

boo to the Hindu! boo to the FIH for letting this incident pass!
candice
09-01-2003  4:35 am
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frightening
Was the incident shown over TV? Frightening, isnt it?

My son plays hockey in Perth and I asked him what he thought about pitch invasion and he said "Mom, I would really like something like that for hockey in Australia as it shows the passion for the sport"

That's my son. I would be terrified if my son was on the pitch during an invasion.
Applebee's Army
09-01-2003  8:37 am
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If only ...
... we did that more in American hockey!!! We're too genteel for our own good. Especially in the era of homeland security.
The Spectator
09-01-2003  10:08 am
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Pitch Invasion
I agree with most of the points above, but whilst trying not to become embroiled in cultural differences, I think it is worth noting that this type of behaviour is a prediliction of the Indian and Pakistani supporters in a number of sporting activities.

There is probably legislation evident in each country that relates to control of public meetings and sports events are such and it should be incumbent on the host country to ensure that such 'invasions' don't take place.

If they want to congratulate their countrymen for a job well done, would it not be possible to have an area away from the pitch where fans could meet their 'heroes' after the match???

Jus a thought!
singh gill
09-01-2003  1:49 pm
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sandeep, you dog!!
Are you not an Indian, sandeep? Why cant you accept the fact that running outfield after a win is an Indian way of life?

It is not necessary to ignite a fire because Indian fans ran into the field in happiness after beating Pakistan, our biggest win ever.

India lives forever! Sandeep, give up your citizenship!!!
wahlia
09-01-2003  1:54 pm
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repeat at asia Cup
I should think that the Asia Cup organisers in KL should adopt strict security following what happened at the MCT. India and Pakistan are going to play again and the same can happen.

I wonder is the FIH has advised the KL organisers to be careful about the same incident not repeating itself.

I also wonder what action the FIH has taken against the MCT organisers in Amstelveen.

The action taken in Holland can be a deterrent to the Malaysian organisers not to have a similar incident repeat itself.
Alessio
09-01-2003  10:21 pm
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Sydney 94?
It happened in sydney 94 World Cup. Pakistan fans stormed into the pitch after winning the world cup.
hmmmm no action after that?
Stephen
09-02-2003  2:36 am
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Personally, I don't see what the problem is with storming the pitch after the game is over. It is a natural human instinct to celebrate and therefore if it is done in a controlled manner then there is no harm in it. I know as a parent of children who play hockey that they celebrate after scoring a goal or winning a match, no the parents don't run on, they encourage and support from the sidelines. I remember when at school albeit a long time ago and playing rugby when the pitch was stormed many times. No one ever got hurt, it was all controlled and the feeling of pride I experienced is something that I will always remember. Should either of my sons or daughters make it to a final and win, if I can I'll run on as well and celebrate with them so as they know how proud I am of them. Controlled passion is acceptable, lets not spoil the grass roots of the game by imposing robotic support especially from the kids, they are the International players of tomorrow!
Dude
09-02-2003  2:45 am
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YO ! get a life man !!!!
Yo ! Sandeep ! Get a life man: Hockey needs all the enthusiasm and frenzy it can get. Pitch invasion is just an indicator as to how enthused the spectators are. Better to have hockey crazed crowds invading pitches than to have a stadium filled with a handfull of intellectuals like you. Jut Buzz off will ya !
ex-international
09-02-2003  4:04 am
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it is scary
as an ex-international i can say it is indeed very, very scary when fans invade the pitch. i was in such a situation when india played malaysia in the 80s in kuala lumpur.

indian fans jumped the barricades and surrounded us, dancing and heckling at us.

there was no way out for us and I thought me and my colleagues would be hurt. Luckily, nothing happened.

I wrote to the MHF and the FIH at that time, pleading for better protection for players. Nothing came out of it. I hope something positive will be done this time.
Stephen
09-02-2003  10:17 am
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come on ex-international, what on earth were you scared about. I've been pitch invaded by nearly 20k frenzied spectators as a rugby player, are you telling me that hockey players are any different, surely not. I know footballers are a bunch of over-paid wimps but come on
Shawn Steele
09-02-2003  10:59 am
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It is a safety issue
It is a safety issue not only for the players, but also for the fans. Jumping barricades and walls all to get on the pitch to celebrate is dangerous. One of the reasons that the UK has those laws is to prevent deaths like the ones that occurred in the late 80's and early 90's. The deaths occured because of fans rushing the pitch and people falling and getting trampled or crushed to death. Celebrate your win but do it responsibly. There is real risk in rushing the field.
ex-international
09-02-2003  2:08 pm
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come on, stephen
20K spectators. stephen, you must be lying. no way, mate. i refuse to believe that.

and you are telling me that its alright for 20,000 people to invade the pitch and you felt safe. nonsense, man, you are dreaming.

if you rugby guys think you are tough and can ward off 20,000 people, be our guest. hockey doesnt need any thing like this.

be sensibile,mate. did you have too many when you posted your comments?
another international
09-02-2003  2:11 pm
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shawn steele puts it in perspective. may i aks what the FIH's stand is on this and what they have done following the incident in Amstelveen?

You FIH PR people, do your job!!!!
HockeyLuvr
09-02-2003  4:28 pm
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Pitch invasion....
Hmmmmm........

Well, I was there at Amstelveen and saw ALL 18 MCT games right
there at the Wagener Stadium. So, here's my account/take on this.

Obviously, India-Pakistan games are highly charged and brings
out the passions of their respective supporters. This culminated
in fans pouring (I'd NOT quite label it as a pitch invasion) into the
ground to greet the winning team. With a capacity of ~9500 at the
Wagener stadium, there were no more than say, 70-80 fans on the
ground.

This happened during both the Ind/Pak games in CT2003 as well as
last year in Cologne (CT2002). On these occasions, it happened only
AFTER the game was over. The crowd was absolutely very well behaved
--there were no bad incidents to report whatsoever.

Now, what do you think did happen in games that involved the
Dutch or Australians (both the men and women)? Though not in
same numbers, there were several fans that jumped the fence
to greet the players after the game. Not to mention several
young kids hunting for autographs, jumping over time and
again. This happened right after the final as well, when several
Dutch supporters jumped fence. The security detail didn't restrain
any one, as there wasn't any threat (perceived or real) to the
players. Same story at last year's CT2002 in Cologne. This type
of crowd behavior is not restricted to just India/Pakistan games.
So go figure.

While player safety should NEVER ever be compromised, FIH has a
difficult role to play here. Letting the crowd hob-nob with the players
after a game makes it very attractive to promoting the sport--we
need all the publicity the sport requires.

While you can't dream of coming anywhere close to footballers,
cricketers, etc., hockey is still a sport where players are very
approachable and you don't have security bothering you. You can
even discuss the game with them over a beer right after!! Mind you,
most hockey spectators are die-hard hockey fans (that are involved
with the sport in some form) and are extremely knowledgeable of the
game. So, in my opinion, let's not make a knee jerk reaction to these
incidents. Any restrictions must be measured and introduced on an
as required basis (just due to the sheer numbers, crowd control for
games held in India/Pakistan/Malaysia become inevitable). Otherwise
it'll spoil the atmosphere of hockey tournaments.

just my 2c worth ;^)
HockeyLuvr
Baljit
09-02-2003  8:49 pm
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Sundeep's article sucks
Get life dude....
JD
09-02-2003  10:02 pm
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Here , here HockeyLuvr
I wholeheartedly agree with you. What invasion are these guys talking about??? Was anybody injured? Were there fights on the field??? Were they ripping the turf and goalposts???? No No and No. If you want to watch hockey from behind barbed wire then feel free to pursue this pointless cause, because that is exactly what will happen. That is the only effective way of keeping the so called "marauding spectators" in the stands. I certainly do not want to see barbed wire fences at hockey grounds. Let be, and let the crowd have some fun at the end of the game, because that is exactly waht it is.
COOL
09-02-2003  10:16 pm
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INVASIVE PITCH.
Sundeep,

You miffed up again, the title of your post should have read "Invasive Pitch".

Because your pitch was caused many minds to be invaded!

HockeyLuvr, put it so well. This sport more than any needs a vibrant atomosphere.

Besides, as before, your logic is seriously warped. Should the FIH penalize the Dutch for staging a grand event and great hockey extravanza.

Are you nuts!

Having been a player, I can say that never was I frightened by people rushing up and shaking my hand.

However, I agree with you; if the fan had diabolical intentions such as yours, I would not be in favour of "Invasive pitch"
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Stephen
09-03-2003  2:01 am
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20k and no beer
I'm serious - European cup game, and we won, the pitch invasion was one of celebration, no hackling, purely joyous fun and pride on show for a job well done. I really don't see what the problem is at all and, rugby players are no different from anyone else to be honest, I felt perfectly safe in fact I enjoyed the Euphoric frenzy of the crowd, just took a while to get back to the changing room but officials made sure everyone was ok, the crowd included. So big up for crowd participation and lets celebrate when we have the opportunity, what do you say?
ex-international
09-03-2003  3:29 am
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being macho!!
All you guys who think pitch invasion is acceptable are not being sensible at all. All you need is one incident and the good name of hockey takes a major beating.

Autograph signing can be held at a special place, while the celebrations can still go on with the spectators in the stands.

You guys make it appear that nothing untoward will take place when fans run out into the pitch. The very sight of it emanates indiscipline and fear.

Can anyone predict what's gonna happen?

Come on you people, stop acting macho and look at the broader picture instead of whacking the "messenger".
bartholomus
09-03-2003  6:39 am
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inane & insane
To say that pitch invasion is acceptable to the sport of hockey is absurd.

I laughed rolling over when I read some inane comments from insane people, saying it did a whole lotta good for hockey. Good promo, they say.

Foolish people are those who invite problems. I am baffled that the FIH has not even responded to the debate going on here.

All some people have asked is if the FIH has rules about fans running onto the pitch. If they dont and dont intend to have rules, so be it...let it be known.
sundeep a lal
09-03-2003  6:57 am
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cool down, Cool
My response to you:

You miffed up again, the title of your post should have read "Invasive Pitch".

Sundeep: You yelp like an invasive #@*! who speaks with no cause, rhyme or reason. Like, tell me first when I first miffed up.

Because your pitch was caused many minds to be invaded!

Sundeep: Thank you. That was the idea. To get people to think about a potentially explosive matter. Of course, you have shown that your brain is somewhere else!!

HockeyLuvr, put it so well. This sport more than any needs a vibrant atomosphere.

Sundeep: Agree. Being vibrant doesnt mean being unruly. But you wont know that because you are a rude and unlettered.

Besides, as before, your logic is seriously warped. Should the FIH penalize the Dutch for staging a grand event and great hockey extravanza.

Sundeep: Just coz you scored As in your exams allows you to be belligerent and kick your mom in her backside. Thank you Holland for organising the MCT well, but sorry, you have to pay for what happened.

Are you nuts!

Sundeep: Is that a fruitcake asking me if I am nuts?

Having been a player, I can say that never was I frightened by people rushing up and shaking my hand.

Sundeep: I would like to know how many fans rushed up to shake your hand. We aint talking about your son/daughter coming up to you after a match. Are you talking international of club?


However, I agree with you; if the fan had diabolical intentions such as yours, I would not be in favour of "Invasive pitch"

Sundeep: Go ahead, yelp like a puppy dog, better still a #@!%!!!!
COOL
09-03-2003  9:40 am
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GOT YOUR GOAT!
Sundeep,
u
You miffed up yet again kid!! You've got to learn; it's a free world.
You voiced your opinion as I did voice mine.

Does your response mean I cannot say what I feel. What are you, a dictator!

You sure want to rule over all people who comment on this site and all spectators. Is this George Orwells 1984 (big brother is watching you!)

What's with these #@!%!!!! and #@!*.
Out of words are we?

I am not condoning "pitch invasion", I am commenting on your authoritarian way of writing.

So Cool it Sundeep, the sun does not shine out of your @$$
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sundeep a lal
09-03-2003  10:35 am
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cool it boy!
I keep telling you to cool it, boy. think b 4 u speak. writing, ah, u will never know how 2 coz u dont have the ability.

I waste my time dealing with "cuckoos" like u. But I am really pleased that you dont condone pitch invasion (which is an about-turn from yr first posting).

Your real problem is that you dont like me. My assertive way of writing or putting things across. That's a skill I have acquired and am proud of it.

You certainly dont know what a good debate and your intrepretation of what I say is that I am being dictatorial.

Oh yes, that @#!&%, well boy, I am just talking your language!! Have a beer boy (or are you drunk already?)
Derek Souza
09-03-2003  10:56 am
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Stay Cool
So, what makes you so high and mighty that no one can respond to what you have posted? Isnt that dictatorial?

Sundeep had every right to repsond to your cutting attack of him, just as you have of me and I u.

Let's focus on issue rather than the writer. We all know that Sundeep provokes controversy, but sometimes that does a lot of good, especially since there are many out there who dare not take on the authorities.

On the issue of pitch invasion, I feel strict controls are needed before the matter gets out of hand.
Hari Kant
09-03-2003  11:58 am
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Everyone Cool It.
Let's talk about the issue of pitch invasion only. You can criticise someones position as part of a debate, but don't insult them for having an opinion.

No more name calling or text like this: "&*^%#".

I will be deleting anything in this thread that gets personal

Hari
COOL
09-03-2003  12:39 pm
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OK!
Hari,

I defer to your decision. Agreed.
//
sundeep a lal
09-03-2003  1:00 pm
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my apologies hari
Hari, your advice noted. I was cut down silly.

Well, you know what happened and I'll leave it at that.

Cheers
Jimmy Williams
09-03-2003  1:19 pm
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Dangerous
It sure is dangerous for fans to rush in after a match has ended. Everyone is at risk including players and officials.

Let's not forget the umpires who often get the big stick when a side loses, especially when India and Pakistan plays against one another or for the matter against any teams.

Those welcoming the rush into the pitch should consider for a moment the safety of the umpires especially when close calls had been made.

I am sure there is strong FIH rulings on this matter and am puzzled why they are not explaining their stand.
Ken
09-03-2003  1:28 pm
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Safety paramount
It goes without saying that safety is paramount in any sport. We must ensure that all safety aspects are well in place before a match.

As an umpire at national level, I sometimes feel that umpires do not receive adequate protection.

So, if nobody else wants protection, I certainly want.

Fans must learn to "party" on the stands.

The pitch is not theirs to celebrate.
Ken
09-03-2003  1:32 pm
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By the way, may I take this opportunity to say that articles like this are what's needed in a hockey portal.

We get global views and that goes a long way in determining a policy by the administrators.

There are not many who like the writer for his opinions, but live with it man. He's not the only one. We sure do want people like Sundeep to write more provocative articles.
hockey fan Canada
09-03-2003  1:55 pm
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Victor or Vanquisher
Ya ! it’s great if you are the victor and you have 20k or so fans coming to congratulate you. But there is more to that. What about the other team that is hackled by the invaders or the officials that certain fans may have taken objection to their officiating ?
Is there a potential of violence. If yes, even at 5% probability of violence. Why take the risk.
Tennis some time ago saw a fan stab Stafie Graph. Can Hockey be far if 20k fans invasion is allowed, all because it cultural. All we need is one fan that believes that a bad call or a bad tackle was an insult to his culture
Marsi Bar
09-03-2003  2:20 pm
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Good show!
Hockey needs more pitch invasions, in fact it needs more people watching. In my eyes any news is good news, and if there is a mental pitch invasion thats a good thing for the sport. Write about it hype the sport up. Sorry, might be forgeting myself here we are talking about a Toffs game and a pitch invasion ( the most common denominator in a sport like football with its working class roots) yust would'nt go down with the hockey playing aristocrat.
Stats Man
09-03-2003  2:42 pm
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20k
can anyone verify the claim that 20k fans rushed onto to the pitch after a european cup match?

do they have a hockey stadium in europe that can accommodate 20k?

has europe ever got 20k people watching a hockey match?

i am a hockey stats man from australia and love to get a response.
candy
09-03-2003  2:46 pm
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women
Do you guys think its allright for fans to rush onto the pitch after a women's hockey match.

Or are we going to have that divide between men and women.

Get real people. You want all those fans coming all over the women....what are you guys thinking of?

The article says it all, i.e. strict security enforcement is needed, even if nothing untoward has happened.

let's not forget that women's hockey is fast gaining popularity and India is up there with the best now.........think about that
cintas
09-03-2003  6:02 pm
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hockey fan canada
Stefi Graf was not the player stabbed, it was Monica Seles. She was stabbed by a man who claimed he was a fan of Steffi Graf.
blimp
09-03-2003  9:38 pm
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20K
Stats mas

I think you'll find the guy, stephen said it was at a rugny match in the European Cup so this is quite feasible. Its not involving a hockey match

cheers everyone
Stephen
09-04-2003  4:02 am
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Thanks Blimp
Thank you - I was going to ignore the comment however when the pitch invasion happened the players from both sides were together exchanging shirts, shaking hands and there was no hackling at all at either team. Rugby like Hockey is a great sport, played by players with passion and supporters who spend vast amounts of money following their teams, so why shouldn't they invade the pitch so long as it is with respect for all players and officials, no one gets stabbed, there is no fighting amongst the supporters at rugby matches, yes between players on the pitch but that is a small part of the game, I'm not condoning it but it happens. So why don't we all calm down now and show each other a little respect, everyone is entitled to an opinion, so voice it - as for the lady players, there should be no difference with their supporters, in actual fact they are more vocal than the male support on the majority of occasions!
Ali Imran (Pakistan)
09-06-2003  8:39 am
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asia cup
I have seen many pitch invasions over the last few years in which no untoward incidents were reported.

But I feel strongly that hockey has been stretching its luck. I think for starters, the AHF should ensure that it doesnt happen in KL during the Asia Cup when fans from Pakistan and India are expected to flock the stadium.

By the way, I still cant understand Indian sportswriters whose flowery language can be a big party joke.
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