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mexican player
07-10-2002 10:30 pm
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i hope barbados does great, i'm sure they'll do a good job representing the americas. good luck and best wishes!
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look out
07-11-2002 3:28 pm
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barbados should not be at a tournament of this calibre. for them to be included but to have the likes of malaysia and india (or is it pakistan?) not included is a joke. these guys could get beaten by a club team. i predict scores in the double digits.
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Ryan
07-11-2002 6:12 pm
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go barbados
I'm an Indian supporter but I wish Barbados very well.
It's good to see they will be sending a team. Hockey
needs to expand its frontiers and embrace countries that are taking
up the sport. If you don't give such countries the chance to play
against quality opposition eg australia, pakistan, new zealand etc.
, hockey will never flourish in them. Ok sure they'll find it tough
going - but it's part of the learning experience.
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rodney
07-11-2002 10:11 pm
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go Bajan boys
many people will say that Barbados should not be there but the critics should know that Barbados qualified for these games. Countries like India have not qualified. One must take a leave out of the world cup football. Many of the big names like France and portugal went home early. its not saying what Barbados may do at these games. Whether Barbados win or loose they will Learn alot from these games that will augur well for them in the future. Many will be disappointed that the likes of India and Malaysia are not there but this is an opportunity for the smaller countries in the hockey arena to let the world see what they have to offer. good luck Barbados
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sherry
07-12-2002 6:50 am
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100% bajan
This little rock called barbados have produced some good players over the years and the players were only waiting for an opportunity like this.I believe that they will do their best weather beaten or not .They will get the experience and do the bajan posse proud.Regardless of the results at the end i am proud of them and continue to support them (.DO THE DOG FELLAS.SHUT DE CRITICS MOUT)-
GOOD LUCK BOYS.
100% BAJAN
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MO33
07-12-2002 9:54 am
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The attitude of "lookout" just sums up the pissy *%&#$ attitude that permeates through the hierarchy of this wonderful sport. Did Pakistan, India or Malaysia suddenly wake up one day and be world calibre? I think not. The Commonwealth Games is not a qualifier for anything, not the World Cup, Champions Trophy or Olympics. Let the other teams get a taste for this level and allow the sport to become a global one again. Right now unless you are from Europe or Australia you could as well just play for fun.
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sinnie
07-12-2002 5:43 pm
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I agree MO33. Though I rabidly support anything Australian I know what it is like to work in a "developing country".
The more opportunities for smaller countries --the better. The country I work in (as national coach by the way) is entitled to be there too but the administrators fear the worst so no team is going of course.
My view is the exact opposite. If Australia beats us by 20 goals so what -- next time it will only be 15 because we learnt something. So now I struggle to even get my players to train because there is nowhere for the to play!!!!!!
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Hockey Pundit
07-12-2002 11:03 pm
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Look out epitomizes the way most international entities view small developing countries. This is the only opportunity such countries will ever have to showcase their talents on the world scene. One show read the preview to the commonwealth games in the world hockey magazine.
The Caribbean is not in the plans of the FIH. Only when it comes to voting for the hierarchy to maintain its status quo. Note the FIH is now promoting hockey in Africa but certainly not for the blacks. Check their umpiring and technical appointments at major games all from Europe and of the same pigmentation. Aren't they a disappointing lot. Remember the problems at the women's world cup qualifier, the blatant bad umpiring decisions of the men's world cup. Just to mention a few. The world is made up of all races, each has a role to play. Hence each must have equal opportunity. Maybe the FIH needs to adopt the same policy as Commonwealth when it comes to qualification for world cup, champions trophy and other major games. The Developing countries may surprise them. Check the demise of West Indian cricket and why certain decision were made.
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captmehta
07-13-2002 1:35 am
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to sinnie
you got the guts , go sinnie go , i wish you all the best ,dont worry aust will not be able to pump more then 9 goals.Just play midfied and positive, you never know. IF YOU NEED FURTHER HELP CONTACT Me at captmehta@rediffmail.com
i agree with you smaller nations must get chance to play .
so go far it.
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Striker
07-13-2002 12:55 pm
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Barbads Team
This is a good team I wish the guys all the best of luck and you will need a bit of it.I know you have had a bit of a hard time preparing for this tournament but please see the big picture .You have lots of critics out there both local and international but don't be distracted, as a member of the first team to travel to the Pan Am games in 1979 they were similar reactions and out of that spawned some exciting hockey players.I can assure you we are all behind you, and you know what Peter norville and Ralph Watson were also members of that team so listen to them they know what they are doing. Stay focus work hard and in the words of Adrian clarke dont let the critics FOCUS.(nb Hari I gotta send you a copy of some bajan calypso fo you to understand the last statement)
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Donny
07-13-2002 4:07 pm
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BIG UP ALL DE BAJANS
Well done fellas. This is first oppurtunity in a long time that my country will be given to show what our Bajan Boys can do. I have no doubt that we will give a good account of ourselves and kick ass. As for look out who ever you are all I have to say to you is DON'T BE ON THE TRACK WHEN THE TRAIN DE BAJAN TRAIN IS COMING THROUGH...
ALL DE BEST FELLAS - THOUGH I AM NOT GOING TO BE THERE ...I WILL BE WITH YOU FELLAS IN SPIRIT.
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A gibbo
07-14-2002 6:22 am
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I totally disagree with lookout (obviously a narrowminded person), if you compare the football world cup 2002 with previous world cups, you would have to admit that the latest world cup produced better football, more goals and was in total much more fun. This is partly because of the underdog teams that took part. The same is needed in hockey, if hockey (FIH) let the smaller countries develope then we would see hockey grow as a world sport and much more youngsters might take up the sport. By having the same teams in almost every single international tournament what you create is a predictable, boring sport.
I also wonder if Gibraltar is taking part in the commonwealth games, and if they aren't why?
Good luck Barbados, i hope you prove many wrong!
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SLEEPY DREAD
07-14-2002 8:06 am
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JUST DO IT
ONCE AGAIN A CARIBBEAN TEAM REPRESENTING AT A MAJOR TOURNAMENT,ACHIEVEMEMT ENOUGH YOU QUALIFIED FOR IT.THE WHOLE CARIBBEAN WILL BE SUPPORTING YOU NO MATTER WHAT THE SCORES ARE.YOUR PARTICIPATION NOW MIGHT JUST BE THE CATALIST FOR MY COUNTRY JAMAICA TO QUALIFY AND BE AT THE NEXT GAMES. AGAIN MAKE US PROUD.
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Revdogg
07-14-2002 9:49 am
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Good luck to you Barbados. We in the Caribbean win with you and lose with you. You have a very skillful team and, whatever the results, will produce some impressive hockey. Showcase the Caribbean for us and hopefully more of us will join you in the future.
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Pinky
07-14-2002 10:46 am
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Barbados Hockey at the Commonwealth Games
Do we have to remind Lookout that Barbados has given some of the greatest sportmen to the World. Our National hero, Sir Garfield Sobers, the famous Ws, the late Sir Frank Worrell, Sir Clyde Walcott, Sir Everton Weekes, Gordon Greenidge, Senator Desmond Haynes, The President of the West Indies Cricket Board, The Rev Wes Hall,etc and the list goes on.
This 166 sq mile island has amazed persons by the quantity and quality of persons who has made a contribution to the World scene in all areas.Against all odds did not Oba Thompson grabbed a bronze in Sydney. Remember out of a population of just over 1/4 million people.
This appearance at Manchester is just another step upwards in the Hockey World. I am sure the guys will give a good account of themselves. So look out. All must remember Barbados has successfully put on the Famous Banks International Hockey Festival for the past 17 years. Go fellas, with the Grace of God you will do honour to yourselves and this blessed Country of Barbados.
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Anthony
07-14-2002 6:16 pm
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Hi there
Good on you Barbados, good luck. I hope you go very well.
does any one have an email address for the Barbados Hockey Federation. pleaase email me at anthony@sportssolutions.co.nz
Cheers
AT
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Anthony
07-14-2002 6:24 pm
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Sinnie
where abouts do you coach?
your comments are very intersting. i cannot see value in losing by 20 goals though. why not play Australia B and have a closer match. develop that way until you are beating them then play the top side.
or play other teams that are not as good as Australia like New Zealand. they are not as good as Australia but are still a top 10 side in the world.
Cheers
AT
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captmehta
07-15-2002 12:37 am
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to sinnie /striker
let us a bet on scorte line of your team and austs. You say 20 - 0.
i say not more the 9-0.
If i am right i get to coach your teamand you resign.
Even striker will be better coach then you are.
Havea faith in your team.
are willing to take the bet.
come on Sinnie come on.
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Irish supporter
07-15-2002 12:11 pm
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Go on the Reggae Boys
Go on Barbados - we in Ireland will be cheering you on. it will be an uphill task for sure but as long as the players learn from the experience they will improve as a result.
it is not that long ago that when Barbados (or the WI) played cricket against England the result was always a forgone conclusion. dont listen to Mr Look out - it is safe to say that he is not an international player himself and just a bit of a arrogant prat.
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wanderer362002@yahoo.com
07-15-2002 2:45 pm
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commonwealth hockey
This year's commonwealth games have only 8 men's hockey teams included as compared to 12 teams in the previous edition. The 8 teams for the commonwealth men's hockey that have qualified encompass all the areas of the globe that were once part of the British empire. In other words, care has been taken to include every single region that were once part of the empire. The teams are:
1) Australia (best team in the world currently and best overall in the early 1980's as well).
2) New Zealand (9th ranked team)
They are both from Oceania and are dominion territories and so they qualify automatically since Oceania don't have other great hockey nations.
3) England
4) Wales
They are both from the continent of Europe and are automatic choices since they are only a handful of European countries which are part of the commonwealth, and also, since they are at the center of the so called commonwealth.
5) Pakistan- They finished highest among the Asian nations behind South Korea in the 2000 Olympics and thus qualified for the commonwealth games. India were seventh and Malaysia were 9th or 10th in that Olympics. Only the best ranked Asian country which was part of the former empire in the 2000 Olympics could qualify.
6) South Africa- they are the champions in Africa and are a good team.
7) Canada- no other North American country is part of the commonwealth. It is also a fine team and are the 'dark horses' of the tournament.
8) Barbados- it is the champion team of the caribbean.
The strongest region represented is Oceania with Australia being the best team in the world (alongside Germany). The weakest region represented is the caribbean with Barbados being ranked much, much lower than all the other teams.
The largest continent or area (Asia) has only 1 representative compared to 1 for the smallest area in the commonwealth (caribbean region). This kind of representation is not proportional to the size and achievements of the countries. Besides, teams such as Malaysia and India are ranked far higher than any of the teams from the caribbean region, including Barbados. Also, please recall that India have a little history in this game having been Olympic champions 8 times (apart from 2 bronzes and 1 silver), having been World Cup champions at least once, having been silver medalists at the Esanda World Tournament (in Australia in 1982) and having been the defending Asian Games champions (in a region which has strong teams like South Korea, Pakistan, Malaysia and Japan). Even though the area size, population size and quality of the teams from Asia are larger and better as compared to that from the caribbean region, both areas have 1 representative each.
It makes sense, and it is indeed right to include Barbados and not either India or Malaysia because Barbados represents another region of the former empire. Another reason, even more important is that "Barbadians like to be part of the colonial mystique." (Valerie Hoyte, term paper History 101/051 April 13, 1999). "Many still like to boast of their connection to the 'Mother Land'." (Valerie Hoyte, term paper History 101/051 April 13, 1999). Even more "Barbados is still obedient to the crown." (Valerie Hoyte, term paper History 101/051 April 13, 1999). Thus, all former regions of the former empire are included using a little affirmative action so as to be more inclusive.
Frankly, it makes no difference which teams are included since this tournament is not an important tournament having no bearing on the teams' rankings in the world. The important tournaments are the Olympic Games, the World Cup and the Champions Trophy. So consider the hockey tournaments of the commonwealth games to be ocassions of festivity. This is also an opportunity for learning for various teams.
Either Australia or Pakistan should be the winners in this tounament. Best of luck to both! Australia are the most athletic and charismatic team in the world at this moment; every player on their team is of the same high standard. They don't have any outstanding individuals unlike their great teams of the early 1980's (and mid- 1990's) although Paul Gaudoin, Brent Livermore and Troy Elder come close. In any case, this is a team game and so there is no need for any standouts; a team only have to achieve together.
As an Indian or Indo-Aryan, I think it is good that the Indian men's hockey team is not in the commonwealth games because it gives them more time to prepare for the elite 6 nations' Champions Trophy and also for the Asian Games (the top two or three teams at this tournament qualify for the Olympic Games from this region). Also, the Indians will have less games to play (two tournaments instead of three) in the next two months. So they will be able to maintain their energy better for the Asian Games.
Finally, I don't consider ourselves to be part of any commonwealth. We identify with our civilization which is at least 6,000 thousand years old (plenty of old and new excavations) . We do not care for an organization which has its roots in colonialism and slavery and which include totally different nationalities and races. Our race and culture are completely distinct from other people's. I end by saying that we Indians are Indo-Aryans or Indo-Europeans by race and not white, black or oriental.
Thanks and Regards,
Alvin
*p.s. Valerie Hoyte's term paper may be seen on the internet. She is most probably a Trinidadian. I hope that "striker" reads her comments some of which I have included in this comment of mine!
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Malvolio
07-15-2002 3:22 pm
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Barbados Track Record
The Barbados team will certainly bring some mystery to the games, and we hope for some brilliance and entertainment. Can anyone tell me about their track record? Who did they beat to qualify (if there was a qualification process). We have two teams from the Americas, two from Oceania, one from Africa and two from Europe, but only one from Asia - it is a shame that India and Malaysia have missed out given their world ranking. Of course winning isn't everything in the Commonwealth Games - the fraternity across cultures and geographic zones is important too.
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ots
07-15-2002 4:28 pm
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Alvin
Alvin - If the Commonwealth games are not important and just an old colonial throwback which you don't care about why do you keep posting such long winded negative diatribes about it ??
Go take your negativety about the event elsewhere.
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wanderer362002@yahoo.com
07-15-2002 4:43 pm
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Re: Barbados Track Record
I believe that Barbados qualified by becoming the champions in the caribbean region. It also helped that every region of the former empire was given at least some representation so as to make sure that these games remain inclusive. In 1998, the representatives from the caribbean region were Trinidad & Tobago.
Thanks and Regards,
Alvin
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wanderer362002@yahoo.com
07-15-2002 7:20 pm
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On a different thread on this site, MR. Striker taunted those "great teams and great players who failed to qualify for tournaments and sought to enter through the back door......." May I remind people that neither the Indian Hockey Federation nor Indians like myself wanted the Indian men's hockey team to be present at the commonwealth games men's hockey tournament (either through the back door or through the front door). This back door issue was written about by Richard Bright of the Telegraph newspaper. Actually the organizers of the commonwealth games were trying to decide whether or not to admit the Indian men's hockey team at the commonwealth games as the 8th or the 9th team (only 8 teams have been allowed participation down from 12 for the previous games). This is because Indian men's hockey teams have achieved some thing over many decades (read the earlier comments on this thread titled Re: commonwealth hockey) and are known to be crowd pullers, especially at a place like Manchester where the Asian population is large. As a result, the organizers would have raked in more revenue. So it were the organizers of the commonwealth games who raised the issue and not us. We were not even interested since we have been fixated on the elite 6 nations Champions Trophy and the Asian Games.
The moment Mr. Striker read the article by Richard Bright and the comments made by us on that thread, he became outraged. We have had great teams and players over many decades. Our performance have declined substantially over the last two decades but we are still doing fairly well compared to many other teams. However, we need to learn from the European, Korean and Australian teams to improve from where we are today. I personally mentioned the issue that India should not participate in the commonwealth games hockey tournament even if we were invited because we needed to focus on the two important tournaments which were right after the commonwealth games and also that we should stop seeing ourselves as part of the commonwealth.
Mr. Striker was offended because his sense of a "special relationship" with "Mother England" was polluted. I know from personal experience with Bajans that they like to think of themselves as being a special part of "Mother England" or even being "Mother England" themselves and they also think that we Indians are somehow inferior people despite our achievements in several fields. Bajans also look down their nose at their fellow West Indians such as the Grenadians, the Antiguans, the Jamaicans, et al. Some of the other West Indians also hate each other and also everybody else who is not of their race, culture, region, religion, et al.
Mr. Striker probably thought that the Bajan hockey team would be replaced by India and he probably felt that "any contender with a Bajan is of necessity a "poor" comparison." (Leonard Tim Hector, "Chauvinists and racists au revoir , 9 May 1997). In his article on the site called Fan The Flame, Mr. Hector who is from Antigua-Barbuda was discussing the polemics created by Bajans who felt that the Bajan wicketkeeper Courtney Browne was far better than Junior Murray who was a Grenadian or a St. Vincentian. His conclusion was that both the wicketkeepers were more or less of the same standard- mediocre. However, he felt that Courtney Browne had made more simple mistakes. In that article, he also mentioned the uproar which was caused by Bajans over the inclusion of their son Anderson Cummins in the West Indies cricket team. He stated further that after a few tests and one-days, Mr. Cummins was dropped from the regional team and eventually from his national team as well. Could it be possible that Mr. Striker thought and still thinks that the Barbadian hockey team is superior to India since Barbados qualified for the commonwealth games based on their winning the caribbean championship? Also, take into account the quota system which will accept only 1 qualifier from the much stronger Asian region and 1 qualifier from the somewhat weaker caribbean region! Besides, the qualifier for the Asian region had to be the country which had the best ranking in the 2000 Olympic Games which is a far more difficult tournament. Pakistan came fourth (after South Korea which won the silver medal), India were placed seventh and Malaysia were placed 9th or 10th. The qualification systems for the two different regions are also rather different!
Striker became annoyed that I had discussed great Indian teams and players including Dhanraj Pillay on several different threads many, many weeks ago. He did not look at those threads in which we expressed respect for the Australian and the European hockey teams and critiqued the Indian team. He put the issues on those threads together with the issue on the recent thread by Richard Bright and this made him mad. This attitude may be described in a very interesting fashion using Leonard Tim Hector's words on the cricket controversy, "Any player from Barbados is by virtue and birth there, superior to any other, especially a small islander."("Chauvinists and racists au revoir," 9 May, 1997). Mr. Hector also stated in that same article that people in the caribbean region who had been colonized "have incorporated all the old colonial prejudices into themselves." In this case, striker's Barbados is "Mother England" or at least a special part of "Mother England" demonstrating
disdain, jealousy and arrogance towards "little heathen natives" like yours truly (one must realize that I am a pagan who worships heathen gods and also from a different race whereas Mr. Striker is an Anglo Saxon Protestant- white or black is not very important!). This kind of attitude may be better explained in Leonard Tim Hectors's words "chauvinism, provincialism and parochialism." ("Chauvinists and racists au revoir" 9 May 1997).
Mr. Striker we have done much better in hockey than you uptil now. Who knows, in future anything can happen and you might surpass us! Some European teams such as Holland and Germany as well as Australia have done that. Furthermore, teams like Canada and Argentina have also beaten us several times. However, none of these countries have ever shown this kind of attitude.
Best of luck to Barbados!
Thanks,
Alvin
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sleepydread
07-15-2002 8:17 pm
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correction for irish supporter
THE REGGAE BOYS WAS THE JAMAICAN SENIOR FOOTBALL TEAM THAT QUALIFIED FOR FRANCE 98 WORLD CUP,NOT BARBADOS HOCKEY TEAM,BUT TAKE HEART MANY DIDNT BELIEVE IT COULD HAPPEN UNTIL IT WAS A REALITY.BARBADOS HOCKEY TEAM GO AND LET YOUR PRESENCE BE FELT YOU EARNED IT.
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wanderer362002@yahoo.com
07-15-2002 11:52 pm
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Oh! I forgot to congratulate the New Zealand cricket team for defeating the West Indies on caribbean soil for the first time. This victory was surprisingly achieved on Barbadian soil where the west indians were supposed to be invincible. Also, this victory was surprisingly achieved in "little Barbados" (striker's term, not mine) which has produced so many great cricketers such as the three W's, Wes Hall, Malcolm Marshall, Gary Sobers, et al. Notice that I am not belittling other nations' great sportsmen since I look up to other countries' sporting heroes as much as I do to ours', especially in hockey. What a herculean effort it must have been to defeat the caribbean kings on the most invincible island which is "Mother England's" greatest carbon copy! I must also congratulate the Indian cricket team for winning the one-day game on Barbadian soil although they lost the test match.
Finally, if a country declines in a sport after dominating it for many, many years, it has nothing to do with conspiracy or white man or any other man changing the rules to suit his style of play or to suit his kind of skills or changing the turf to suit his physique. Also, it is not the fault of the referees or umpires for great teams can overcome any obstacle whether it is natural or artificial. It has something to do with the former champions themselves, i.e., improper planning leading to a reduced talent pool or wrong coaching or deteriorating playing fields. This is true both in cricket and in hockey and also in any other sports.
Thus, I end my comments on the commonwealth threads.
Thanks,
Alvin
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striker
07-15-2002 11:58 pm
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diatride
I was hardly aware that my simple comment on the Barbados Hockey Team would have provoked such a RANCID reply from from Mr. Alvin. If that little statement bared a festering wound I am truly sorry for the hurt and pain i have caused.I am a humble WEST INDIAN born in BARBADOs with uncles and aunts in GUYANA, TRINIDAD, GRENADA, ST. LUCIA AND ANTIGUA cousins in all the afore mentioned and JAMAICA, CURACAO and ARUBA My mother and several brothersand sisters live in the USA.Sorry I do not fit the Mould you have made.Never the less sir (an English Honourific)The little bit of hockey i have admired over the years and which i wish i could play was the style and grace so beautifully displayed by the Indian and Pakistani players and coaches i have had the privaledge to come in to contact with. I am happy to say that unlike you they have all been decent and gracious people and my life have been enriched by our encounters and i hope theirs by mine.Unfortunately i spend a lot more time reading about hockey than history and so i cannot say that i have read any of the literary works quoted by you But if your quotes are accurate and i am sure that they are, you have given me a greater reason not to read them as an adventure into hate and character assasination does not fit in to my daily lifestyle.Once again i am truly sorry if I bared a festering sore it certainly was not my intention. Should you essay any further into any characterization of me that i find offensive i will reply and as you can read i am a good student of both English from the mother country or anywhere else.
Thank you.
Ps should you be in the region at any time maybe my friends and i in Barbados can give you a better perception of Barbadians or you may speak to some of the cricketers who recently had an enjoyable time off the field in this lovely island.
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striker
07-16-2002 12:04 am
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correction the heading should have been Diatribe not diatride thank you
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PRINCE
07-16-2002 12:39 am
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BARBADOS HOCKEY TEAM
WE ARE COMING TO SHAKE UP MANCHESTER WITH THE SKILL, STRENTGH AND GRACE THAT ALL OF YOU CRITICS DO NOT HAVE OR WILL EVER HAVE....I KNOW BY THE GRACE OF GOD THAT IT IS GOING TO BE AN EYE OPENER FOR SOME OF YOU OUT THERE WHEN WE STEP OUT ONTO THAT ASTROTURF AND START TO PLAY..... TO MY BROTHER" MO33 ".. TO THE REST OF THE TEAM AND COACHING STAFF WE WILL BE THERE SHORTLY.. DO NOT BE DISTRACTED BY THE STUPID ASS COMMENTS FROM THAT CHARACTER " LOOK OUT " AND OTHERS.... ALL OF THIS NEGATIVITY IS MAKING US EVEN STRONGER AS EACH DAY PASSES....
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whuuuuut
07-16-2002 1:35 am
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re look out
I couldn't agree with you more. The flawed system of qualification that has been prominent since the start of the games must end. The teams playing should be there based purely on skill, not their geographical location. I think that a club side from the VFHL could beat the Barbados side that was announced. Look out for a future UBC Barbados friendly. UBC has new direction under Shiaz, a former national team coach, and are going to challenge for the premiership and the shield. However, with that said I wish the best of luck to the boys of Barbados.
Peace
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Irish
07-16-2002 6:41 am
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Sleepy Dread ....wake up
yes, the reference to "Reggae Boys" was using a football nickname for an international squad and applying to a hockey context given the similarities of origin. call it a bit of poetic licence if you may.
But ..well done for pointing out the blatantly obvious to everybody.
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wanderer362002@yahoo.com
07-16-2002 11:14 am
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Re: diatribe
I am back on this thread for one last time. I accept striker's apology and I would like to offer him my apology for overreacting. Also, I would like to state that I am glad that the Barbados hockey team are at the commonwealth games. I wish them the best of luck not only for the commonwealth games but also for future endeavors.
Thanks,
Alvin
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Damian (wolfman)
07-16-2002 1:36 pm
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Good luck Barbados. Trinidad and Tobago gave it a shot last time around, now it is your turn. Do us in the Caribbean proud.
There will always be those who will want to maintain the status quo. They might maintain that Barbados, Jamaica, Guyana or T&T do not belong in Games like these, but for anyone that knows hockey there is a young man by the name of Kwan Browne that plays in England and skippered the T&T in the last Games. Anyone want to question his ability? Up until those Games he had played exclusively in T&T, that is where he learned the game.
If someone thinks Barbados shouldn't be there because they aren't well known then so be it. There are always going to be those for and those against.
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MO33
07-16-2002 3:11 pm
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THANKS
As a member of the Barbados Hockey Team about to embark on this exciting & challenging journey I would like to thank all who have submitted threads. To the many who have supported us, for showing that their is still unity & respect in sport, especially in the PanAM region. Also to the detractors, who will give us the strength to conquer all adversity.
As I am sure all Indians, Germans, Australians, Malaysians, etc once new, being the underdog can have fantastic position to be in.
One love
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DONNY
07-16-2002 11:10 pm
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THANKS BIG UP ALL DE BAJANS!!!!
MO33 AND PRINCE THANKS FOR THE SUPPORT OF THE BAJAN TEAM. JUST BE SURE THAT ON THE 25TH YOU SHUT ALL THESE NEGATIVE F******* UP AND BRING HOME GLORY TO BIM. ALTHOUGH FELLAS I WON'T BE TRAVELLING THIS TIME AROUND REMEMBER WHEN I SAY HYPER YOU SAY .....
AS FOR MO33 KEEP THE FLAME BURNING BRIGHTLY EVER STAR BOY.... UP AND ON, UP AND ON
AND AS FOR PRINCE LET THESE BLOODY PEOPLE RESPECT YOUR ROYALTY.
SO FELLAS DO US PROUD!!!!
WE ARE #1 Don't you people forget it!!!
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OL'DAWG
07-16-2002 11:13 pm
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Congrats Paul on being named Captain....hope you all do well........remember we are all cheering for you!!
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CAPTMEHTA
07-17-2002 8:13 am
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STRIKER
STRIKER I FEEL YOU SHOLD TRAVEL TO GAMES AND COACH THE TEAM . YOUR PRESENSE WILL HAVE GOOD EFFECT ON TEAM.
ALL THE BEST.
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Jammy
07-17-2002 8:55 am
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I guess we should quit then
For the people that say that a country like Barbados should not be at these games, you can buy tapes of the world cup on this site and watch reruns all summer.
I am Bermudian and I wish the Bajan team and Barbados the Federation there all the best.
Also for the one person who was trying the link continents with teams, there are two American continents.
I say congrats to the COmmonwealth Games committee to showing more vision than the F.I.H. (and some making comments) in games appointments and opportunities for us smaller nations.
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#17
07-17-2002 9:55 am
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Good luck to the bajan posse. No matter where we are in the world we will be behind you in Manchester.
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KELLY
07-17-2002 3:45 pm
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GO TEAM GO
WHEN I SAY HYPER YOU SAY WHAT??????
IT'S MY PERCEPTION THAT EVEN THOUGH WE ARE NOW INTO THE 21 CENTUARY, MAN CANNOT ACCEPT MAN.
THE TEAM WHICH WILL BE REPRESENTING BARBADOS AT THE COMMONWEALTH GAMES, IS ONE OF UNIQUENESS, IT CONTAINS
1 PORTION OF STRENGHT,
1 PORTION OF DETERMINATION,
2 CUPS OF ATTITUDE
4 CUPS OF F#$% YOUS
WE DIDN'T COME IN THROUGH THE BACK DOOR, AN OPPORTUNITY PRESENTED ITSELF AND MANCHESTER HERE WE COME.
FOR ALL OF THOSE PERSONS WHO SHARES THE SAME VIEWS AS LOOK OUT, PLEEEEASE SPARE US YOUR NEGATIVITY. WE CONSIDER THIS A LEARNING EXPERIENCE AMONG OTHER THING, WE LOOK FORWARD TO THE CHALLENGES ON THE FIELD BUT AS A TRUE BAJAN, WE LOOK FORWARD ALSO TO THE MANY PEOPLE THAT WE WILL COME INTO CONTACT WITH, AND THE ONES WE WILL FORGE GREAT FRIENDSHIPS WITH.
TO MR LOOK OUT... I SAY SCREW U.
WE MAY NOT PROSPER TODAY OR MAKE OUR MARK IN HISTORY BY BEATING SOUTH AFRICA, AUSTRALIA OF ANY OF THE TEAMS FOR THAT MATTER, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT WE WOULD HAVE CREATED A HISTORY AND A LEGACY FOR THE CARIBBEAN PEOPLE, FOR OUSELVES AND LOVE ONES, FOR OUR COUNTRY.
GUYS REMEMBER WHEN YOU ARE THERE YOU ARE 100% BAJAN AND NOBODY CAN TAKE YOUR HEART OR YOUR PRIDE AWAY FROM YOU.
BARBADOS SUPPORTS YOU AND WE LOVE YOU.
PUT YOUR BEST FOOT FORWARD AND THAT IS ENOUGH.
YOU HAVE ALREADY MADE YOUR MARK....
CONGRATULATION
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fly on the wall
07-17-2002 11:51 pm
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Los Barbados ...
Having been to Barbados for a cricket tour and met many fabulous people there I look forward to seeing them in action in Manchester. I believe Craig Cozier, son of cricket reporter Tony, played for the island many years ago.
I see Barbados' captain's name is Inniss.
That reminds me of a beautiful young woman of the same surname whose acquaintance I met in 1995.
Ah, sweet memories !
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Marc King
07-20-2002 8:02 pm
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Good luck fellas!
Glad to see our Caribbean representation. Wish it was our Guyana boys there as well but, go represent.
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Deej
07-25-2002 7:58 am
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Go represent B'dos...the Jamaican women should have been there. Big up the Maple crew.
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Chippa
07-30-2002 8:22 am
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What a team / What Support
Just an early word on many of the above comments, Less than 15 years ago Korea where not the all powerful Hockey nation that they would seam to be today. How did they get better and challenge the Statue Que (not the Band), they got a chance. At the World Student Games in Sheffield (just over the hills from Manchester) a young Korean side showed some magic. That magic has now been fine tuned. The Barbados Team has shown magic, they and any other team that qualify for any competition have the right and the duty to compete, and play Barbados have. True some of the score lines have been high, but that blinds you to the raw ability, commitment, passion and individual skill (that at time dazzled the opposition).
I watched the South Africa and NZ games, Barbados gave it everything and everything +1. This team has the potential, they have the will, they have ability to attack, they just need a little more time, but I promise you that if the team improves at the rate it has between the South African and NZ games, then it may not be long before Barbados or indeed the West Indies are taken Very Seriously.
Finally the supporters loved you guys, and that is not just the Brits cheering on the underdogs. Good luck against the Aussies, Paul Inniss should have a stormer, and try to play a little bit more through the right and Kwame Emmanuel amongst others.
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Fellow Bajan
07-31-2002 2:43 pm
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Get Through Bajans
barbados is my team allde way, regardless if they win or lose. i am currently training for my country in hockey to and i hope i have the support of my fellow bajan like donny, 100% etc.
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Bajan Player
08-01-2002 1:26 pm
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Well I am sad to see the bajan boy getting trashed.But what can you say they are players that are on the team that should not be there.What the barbados federation needs to do is to take a serious look at there players and chose the best team so that they do not look stupid on the international circuit.What I want to see now is what team they are going to name for the CAC game.If they are not careful we will fall behind even at these tournaments.I wish the barbados team the best of luck.(Bajan Player)
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Donny
08-02-2002 12:28 am
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RE :Fellow Bajan
My friend fellow bajan...you have my support 150% and i hope i have yours.
ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO TELL OUR BOYS....DON'T MIND THE LOSSES BUT MAKE SURE YOU KEEP YOUR HEAD UP HIGH IN PRIDE!!!! AND KEEP THE BAJAN FLAME BURNING. AND WHEN YOU RETURN PASS ON WHAT YOU LEARNT TO SOME OF THE YOUNGSTERS LIKE MYSELF WHO WILL SOMEDAY LOOKING TO FILL YOUR SHOES AND CARRY ON THE DUTY AND WALK THE PATH THAT YOU HAVE SET FOR US!!!
AS TO MY BOYS FRANKIE, CHEESE, NICK NICK, TY , EMMY, COREY, PHIL, SHAWN, FOWL, WEBB, MO, DE RASTA MAN......
GIVE THANKS AND PRAISES TO THE ALMIGHTY!!!!!
LATER FELLAS
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Valerie Hoyte
07-22-2003 5:57 pm
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I am bajan
I write about barbados because I have insider knowledge and a thirst for the truth that confronts me through observation, thanks for quoting me, especially in hockey that I know nothing about... but I am proud to say that I am a barbadian, not Trinidadian. what made you think I was?
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