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des roberts
09-03-2005 11:26 am
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England Hockey
After the defeat by Scotland,there was a welter of hard criticism of both the performance of the players and of the Management,with some justification.
However I feel that it is only fair to applaud the Squad's last ditch relative success .
,and the effort of thought,will,and energy from those involved.
I hope that even the most critical of Hockey people will acknowledge the efforts made,and do it as publicly as they voiced their disapproval.
I wish all well and look forward to being able to sustantiate my support in the light of future efforts.
Some lessons from views expressed have been learnt,it seems,and these and others need to be examined critically to ensure continuing reward.
After all,success,or the lack of it,has repercussions throughout Hockey at all levels.
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Paid to watch.
09-03-2005 5:36 pm
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Des Roberts
England played 5 games in the european cup and won only 1 drawing 1 and losing 3 against inferior oposition with the exception of Germany. "lucky for them they didn't play Spain or Holland". So by any strech of one's imagination this can't be called a successful tournament. At least 6 players should never have been in the squad and the rest only average also ran hockey players. I now live and work in Germany so I didn't have the extra cost in plane fares, but still cost me good hard earned money to see this english rubbish.
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Bloke
09-04-2005 6:24 am
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It is time for some serious change.
Lee has been found wanting, he may be a nice person and the players like him, but could you seriously imagine another international side appointing him coach.
Come on DF wake up and make some decisions you will be remebered for.
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Bloke
09-05-2005 9:10 am
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Coaches
there are around 20 world class coaches, non of whom sadly are english, make a choice, we can be 12th in the world british bulldogs or top 6 with a foreigner.
What do you want?
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geezer
09-05-2005 2:15 pm
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Hae to disagree there. Jon copp is a top class coach and english. He has won the european cup with reading and has made them the team that they are today.
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Player
09-05-2005 2:58 pm
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Re: Bloke
'Top 6 with a foreigner'?
What was Barry Dancer?
Our players fail to perform and he gets blamed, goes back to Oz and gets them a gold medal.
How about we take a look at the players we have and maybe that is why we aren't good enough? They seem to perform in our mediocre natioanl league and some do wel in europe, but then at international simply don't cut it
Yes the coach does play an intergral part but you stil need to be able to hit a ball flat and have someone who can stop it at the other end!
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Concerned
09-05-2005 3:26 pm
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Coaches
We have World Class coaches in Jennings, Royce and Featherstone ..... why are these men not involved. Jenno had to leave England and the other two, work with clubs and are dedicarted to our sport! DF was appointed as our Performance Director having been out of the game for how long? What decisions has he made since his appointment? just the kind of bloke the HA love ..... do nothing and make make conciliatory noices!
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sceptic
09-06-2005 5:51 am
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concerned
the three names you suggest are undoubtedly the best coaches in the world, at least in their own view and therin lies the problem! Unfortunately none of them have the ability to manage their own egos.
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Just the one
09-06-2005 7:52 am
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Obvioulsy not just in their view otherwise they wouldnt have been mentioned. I think your highlighting your ignorance, these coaches are top class, they dont coach the teams they have with the success they have achieved by being inadequate now do they.
Have you been coached by these? or are you another of the many that sit at home and make up opinions of those who have achieved more than you within the hockey world?
I think we konw the answer
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pem coach.
09-07-2005 2:26 am
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Just the one
Yes, by all three of them, and I agree with sceptic that they all have major ego issues I would stick with Jason Lee he doesn't come with the same baggage as those you mention and is a far better coach believe it or not !!.
At this point in time Jason Lee is the best coach, he just doesn't pick the right players, in my opinion.
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Ex Int. GK
09-07-2005 7:46 am
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Coach
'Best Coach' but cant pick the right players...hmmm doesnt sound like something 'the best' coach would do.
Featherstone would certainly remove any arrogance from the team and make them play for the shirt, as well as using players skills to their advantage and not just smothering them in order to play a certain system.....
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Concerned
09-07-2005 8:24 am
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Sceptic
Attend one of the Sessions with any of the three!! Featherstone, has coached USA, and with a young squad ...just look of the performances ( and results in Los Angles), later coached South Africa, look up the records ..... Royce, look up his record with England U21's, and the GB qualifications with the women. Jenno ...it was his work that got the Englad girls the accolades in Perth.
Best of all ..... speak to a few of the players that have been coached by these guys. Sure Jason is a good coach.................taking a Uni side to Prem does not merit comparison to the other three. Jason Lee will agree that he needs experience to get up the ladder. The Olympics and the European results are disappointing for him and the players. Do not be little the work of men, that are held in high esteem abroad ......
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sceptic
09-07-2005 12:33 pm
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concerned
methinks you protest too much! They are all undoubtedly competent coaches but I stand by my original comment: none of them has the ability to manage their own ego and each have been found out accordingly. And yes I have first hand experience of three of the four coaches under scrutiny and seen the other at work.
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Concerned
09-08-2005 2:54 am
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International Coaches
Guess you are entitled to your opinion. Many of us that have been lucky enough, to have enjoyed and improved under Roycie Gavin, and Jennings. That volume of experience and expertise is not being utilised .................... surely it only helps Englands cause if we pool our best resourses. Your opionn,.. Sceptic.... holds favour at HA, sadly results count at International level, and for all our sakes, hope you are right ,and Jason delivers ...soon ,,,
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Bloke
09-08-2005 3:17 pm
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Dancer
Kept us in the top 6 and maintained funding, nuf said
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Sceptic hmmm
09-09-2005 2:08 am
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Surely its a question of results and not egos. Royce had good results until the girls thought he was too heavy handed ... sounds a good candidate for the mens job. Jennings got the ladies to near the top was found to be too heavy handed and then the ladies went south. Don't know about Featherstone.
Players should have no involvement in the coaching ... look at the England football team. Finally are egos really a problem. What about Clough, Ferguson, Revie, Cruyf, Mourinho. Enough said. Sceptic I am sceptical about your understanding of team games and the coaches role within them.
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ozziebrit
09-09-2005 11:30 am
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get an ozzie
Hawgood would be the perfect man for the job or even Todd Williams at Hamstead.
all the above have had their chance and blown it
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coach
09-10-2005 2:22 am
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The buffoons at H/Q will appoint a "yes man" who will be subservient to them regardless of his ability. And not forgeting who they appointed as the performance director backs up my posting.
The GB coach when appointed will be someone who has never held a top coaching position, just watch this space !!.
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Wanabee coach
09-20-2005 12:35 pm
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Coach
I have no past experience in coaching, but maybe I could cut my teeth on this coaching appointment.
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