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August 29, 2005
Belfast Telegraph
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By John Flack

A last-gasp goal from Instonians' striker Mark Irwin helped Ireland storm back from three goals down to defeat Italy 4-3 in Rome yesterday.

The result meant that Ireland completed their two-match programme against the Italians with an unbeaten record.

On Saturday the sides fought out a 4-4 draw.

On that occasion it took a late equaliser from Stephen Butler, who finished with a hat-trick, to earn Ireland a share of the spoils.

Yesterday sloppy marking allowed Matias Lutpani to put Italy in front after only three minutes.

Three minutes later the same player scored from the penalty flick spot and things went from bad to worse for Ireland.

With 20 minutes gone Mirko Faggian scored with a neat deflection to leave the visitors with it all to do.

But Butler gave them some hope when he reduced the deficit in the 24th minute with a trademark penalty corner conversion.

Seven minutes after the re-start Andrew Barbour and Irwin combined to set up Justin Sherriff who made it 3-2.

In the 45th minute Butler struck again with another set-piece as Ireland drew level.

With four minutes remaining Sherriff turned provider and his reverse-stick cross was met by Irwin who grabbed the winner.

Irwin had also been on target in Saturday's game in which Ireland staged a great comeback after trailing 4-2 with just seven minutes remaining.

The weekend series was being used as part of the preparation for next month's European Nations trophy tournament being staged at the same venue.

Ireland stayed in the tournament hotel and had several run-outs on the same pitch they will encounter on their return visit.

The players and management team returned home last night in the knowledge that they will have to beat the Italians if they are to achieve their objective of booking their place in next year's World Cup qualifier.
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worried
09-01-2005  11:39 am
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its worrying that we had to come from behind to get results in the two games. Doesn't bode too well for Rome. Any thoughts?
Dilbert
09-01-2005  3:29 pm
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Not worrying
Practice game, close to tournament, likely to play Italians in the crossover matches or final which determines whether we qualify for next tournament, video cameras rolling - no one was showing off any tricks
Dilbert again
09-01-2005  3:39 pm
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East European opposition ?
What would worry me is that our opponents in the group games are Belarus, Wales & Russia.
Have we had any practice matches against these types of sides all summer ?
That could be the downfall.
Its all very well playing against predictable West European sides like Scotland, Germany, Belgium, France & Italy.
We will not be used to playing against solid defensive teams who have honed their defensive skills on Indoor courts.
Hope we are prepared for the group matches & are not just lining up our opponents in the final!
interested
09-02-2005  12:44 am
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who's the new sini high performance coach ?
Dub
09-02-2005  4:49 am
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Yes it is a bad showing going behind in both games but at least we showed the fighting spirit to come back. Good to see Stephen Butler getting a few goals aswell as we will need them in the tournamnet.
positive
09-02-2005  6:29 am
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worried
Yeah, but at least they did come back. It would have been far more concerning is they hadn't.
wat....
09-03-2005  1:15 pm
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Butlers just a giant in the middle of the pitch... doesnt possess much skill jsut batters his way around... john jermyn should be in there not him!! any disagreements are just wrong
honest
09-03-2005  9:13 pm
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we are a poor team. I strongly doubt that we will win the tournament.
Pembrokian
09-04-2005  5:53 am
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JJ
JJ was not available this year due to studying so Wat's comments about J Jermyn do not add up - so your argument IS WRONG. Agree he would be in the team if he were available - he was class this year for us.

Find it odd that you are advocating that Butler, a guy who scored 5 goals (I think) in the last two games should not be in the team!! You must be another ignorant CI man.
MS
09-05-2005  5:19 am
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JJ
What do you mean, Butler is a superb player. You haven't a clue what you are talking about!
hockeyplayer
09-06-2005  9:28 am
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Butler
The comments above from Wat show how childish some contributotrs can be,79 caps,45 goals(most goals ever,so far for an Irish player) do mean something,In many observers eyes one of the best players ever to play for Ireland.Whilst in Belgium was chosen 3 years in a row on Belgiums League team and in Top Three Players for their Golden Stick award.Any team would be proud to have him.
uninterested
09-06-2005  10:10 am
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interested
i hear Stephen Watt got that job, but i'm not sure
Player
09-06-2005  1:58 pm
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wat
Butler would walk into any team in Ireland. End of argument.
Striker
09-07-2005  10:16 am
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Butler
Even better that Glenanne have him aboard then and also Graham Shaw - not a bad pairing to come back into a strong side - true they may not play all of the season but there alright to have as back up (-:
S
09-07-2005  10:41 am
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Striker
Considering they did well last year without their Internationals this could be a good year for them.
player
09-09-2005  9:48 am
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Glenanne are a bunch of thugs-ask anyone who isnt in the club.No one has any respect for any of you.Umpires are afraid of you.Fair play tho,ive never seen a team that can win games by beating up the opponents in hockey before.Butler-what a mistake moving back there.
S
09-09-2005  10:21 am
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Player
You haven't a clue about Glennanne and don't slag them off unless you know them. You said ask anyone who isn't in the club, well I'm not and they are a great bunch of lads off the pitch, who cares what they are like on the pitch they are great to watch and get the results. Maybe they have kicked your ass a few times and you don't like it . Why would Butler go back if they are a bunch of thugs? Wise up!
Anon
09-10-2005  6:03 am
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Glens
Come on Player. Wise up! you are obviously one of those whimps for Three Rock who just cannot take the heat. Get out of the kitchen you PUFF!
Anon
09-11-2005  6:39 am
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Glens
The valley of death
nah
09-11-2005  9:44 am
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glenane really are a bad club.. not a fair team and no sportsmanship.. seriously dislike them.
anon
09-11-2005  12:19 pm
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Q:why are Glenanne not in the 2nd division?
A:they are willing to hit people to win.
Full of mouths and scum,when one of ur players hits some1 nothing is said.A bad tackle on one of ur lads and u harrass the umpire til u win.Ask any player in Ireland what club theyd join if they had to move-Glenanne would be bottom of the list.
Ulster
09-11-2005  3:29 pm
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Yea Stephen Watt has got the SINI job, hes leaving Banbridge in october, part of contract where he cant coach a Premier League side.truth hurts Bann
Ulster 2
09-11-2005  10:13 pm
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Watt Truth????
Lucky Ban no more closed room abuse.
Interesting how a person with little personal skills will cope with a postion where you have to interact vwith other people, thats lots of other people.
By the way does he know how to coach SENIOR players????? Yeah before you get on the bannnwagon where have all his mighty U/18's progeessed to, not U/21's as there is no team anymore because thay can't compete MMMMMM good development. Don't blame lack of money because if they were successful then there would be a 21 team.
Positive move Ulster unlucky Irish Hockey
Can't wait for the feedback
Bye
Concerned
09-12-2005  9:14 am
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As a female supporter of Hockey in Leinster who plays with Loreto, I'm seriously concerned about the bad mouthing of a fellow Leinster team. I have watched many mens matches in the past and have to say that I don't think Glenanne are any better or worse than other Leinster teams. It strikes me that this is the type of arrogant snobby attitude that comes from people who (a) are peeved because Glenanne are a better team and will be a force to be reckoned with this year and (b) generally will look down on a team because they are based in Tallaght. This is the type of childish, snobbish behaviour that hockey could do without. We are trying to encourage the sport in non-traditional areas and this is the type of attitude that will always stop young people from Clondalkin, Tallaght, Ballymun etc... participating in our wonderful sport.
S
09-12-2005  9:45 am
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Concerned
Well said concerned, totally agree with you.
Striker
09-12-2005  10:22 am
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Anon
Ask Stephen Butler and Graham Shaw why are they joining Glenanne?? Obviously 2 of the best players in the country seeing how they have been picked to play for Ireland over 75 and 59 times respectfully, come on its just typical putter downers that hang around this website. Always bad mouthing everything in Irish Hockey no matter what the general opinion, get up with the times, Glenanne play hockey - hard and strong just like Garvey used to do in the 90's - dominate teams physically and mentality. Is hockey meant to be played like friendlies, not these days, ask all of the Division 1 teams across the country who have trained for up to 6 weeks pre-season , 2 to 3 times a week - come on this is the real deal and if you think any of teams don't want to win, then think again sonny boy
Jonathon
09-12-2005  12:15 pm
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Re: Ask any player in Ireland what club theyd join if they had to move-Glenanne would be bottom of the list.

Well Stephen Butler and Graham Shaw have both rejoined! ... and I believe that there has also been an influx of some young underage players... mmmmmh where does that put your theory. I'd say most players in Ireland would be happy to join such a successful club only they probably wouldn't get their place on the first team
munster
09-13-2005  7:47 am
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whats wrong with playing to your strengths if Glenanne can win games by being more physical than another team then whats wrong with that. What happens on the pitch stays on the pitch if you cant handle being pushed about you shouldn't be playing any sport!
Ulster
09-14-2005  4:56 am
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Get stuck in!
just wondering
09-14-2005  10:46 am
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can anybody tell me whats happened to chris jackson?
S
09-14-2005  11:08 am
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Just Wondering
Hey as far as I know he is now a Fireman and can't give the commitment to International hockey!
anon
09-14-2005  12:30 pm
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Theres obviously been a misunderstanding here.Theres playing tough and theres playing like thugs.If i wanted to hit people id join a boxing club.If i wanted to rugby tackle people id play rugby,and if i wanted to curse at everyone around me,including my own team id join a cursing club.Glenanne lack any kind of sportsmanship or fairplay.We all know what most of their players are like,and its the type of person most people dont look up to.
Santa Claus
09-14-2005  4:48 pm
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Spot On ANon
I think this last post by Anon sums it up sheer brute force and intimidation do not make a team to admire. breaking down play abusing all around including officials and a purely cycnical approach to the game are disgusting.

The great shame is they have lots of skill and ability and don't need to resort to some of the stuff they get up to.

Perhaps someone could justify their behaviour at last seasons cup final as a starting point. If that can be defended as acceptable then there is no future for sport.
cork
09-14-2005  5:05 pm
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rubbish anon... jealousy will get you nowhere. and for those of you who say that butler doesn't deserve his place on the Irish team... he's just become the top international goal scorer ever. Glenanne are proud of their Irish players who are making such an impact with the irish team. Can't wait to play against them this season as it should be a great game. We'll probably meet them in teh Irish Senior Cup final...
S
09-16-2005  8:07 am
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Santa Claus
What happened in last years cup final??
Striker
09-16-2005  8:07 am
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Anon and Santa Claus
Guys dry your eyes, you sound like little babies wanting their nappy changing!
You would swear Glenanne are the only team ever to play physically, they play with pure emotion and is it wrong to want to win everytime - see this is why they beat you year in and year out, if crying about it on this website makes you feel better - then go for it.

Good man Cork, you boys down there enjoy the physical aspect of the game and there were three entertaining games between Harlequins and Glenanne last year. Better team won in the playoffs so fair paly.

Anyway best of luck to everybody starting their League Campaigns this weekend, and to Anon and Santa Claus, you make sure your skirts are ironed and your pom-poms are fluffed when you are cheering on your teams tomorrow
Retired Hockey Player
09-16-2005  8:24 am
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Hockey and Glenanne
Never new people were so passionate about hockey. Are Glenanne that good !! They seem to have the hockey world talking anyway.
Young Glenanne Player
09-21-2005  6:46 pm
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I know hockey thugs!!!
Me been a young Glenanne player have a lot of respect for our senior players. They show me that a person like me can play a sport at a very high level. We have 3 Irish internationals(Stephen Butler, Graham Shaw, Joe Brennan) and many interprovincial players. Thugs they are not. I played against thugs before, they were called Smithfield. Now they are thugs. I never seen any of our senior players play like they did! Ask anyone who has played against them!
Sport Billy
09-22-2005  8:40 am
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Glenanne references
Having played rugby and other sports to a reasonably high level, I took up hockey about 10 years ago. To be honest , my perception was that this game was being played by the 'debating team' types (no offence intended if you were on a debating team). Thankfully I was wrong, I've never played higher than division 3 but year in and year out I enjoy some hard, tough, physical games against guys who I'm happy to have pints with any time. I wouldn't want it any other way, if you want a true non contact sport then it's time to pack it all in for the links.

I have seen Glenanne's Senior team play 6/7 times in the last couple of years and the players are a credit to this sport and their club. If we want to continue to grow this sport and expand it into areas where we can get some real talent, it has to be played by real people. Not by the 'Dort Speak' types who whimper when their thong gets caught up their backsides !

In fact, some of the previous comments would almost make me join Glenanne (if they have room for an old stager on their 3rd xi)

Let the begrudgers wipe their crocodile tears on the property pages of the 'Oirish Toimes' and let talent, drive, ambition and the will to win thrive.

Sport Billy
Vinnie Geary Private Eye
09-22-2005  10:31 am
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found out
To call us Glen boys thugs is idiotic and shows everyone reading the forum what fools these people leaving such msgs are. Bullying tactics dont work at senior level. Thats why umpires are there, to prevent that. Any team trying to play like thugs would soon be found out as they would have too many red and yellow cards and suspensions to be really competitve and would end up relegated after a few seasons (Wimbledon FC anybody?). Glenanne have been top of the Leinster league now for over ten years. You dont hold a position like that for ten years and fill international places with record breaking players without having high levels of skill ingrained thoughout the club. "Anon" and "santa clause" are obviously inbred chinless left kicking wonders from Dublin Fooor still being breast fed by their mothers, and who are better players in their own heads than reality. My advice to you is to eat some red meat and go training.
Vinnie
Striker
09-22-2005  11:56 am
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Now now
Come on young player - a game is a game on the pitch and what happens on it stays on it. Everybody including Smithfield & Glenanne would be more than happy to join any opposition for a beer afterwards. Lets enjoy the game and make friends (-:
Frances
09-23-2005  10:59 am
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Glenanne H.C.
Hey guys,

Never mind the women's team, I believe the men are just as bad in Glenanne
Leinster
09-23-2005  11:42 am
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Glenanne
Wise up young man, Its not the likes of Butler or Shaw that have given glens a bad name,they havent been playing for you for a few seasons now, its the senior players like Fitzpatrick,Bolger and Browne that use intimidation to both opposition and the umpires to win matches, those are the thugs that people talk about and those are the thugs that have given Glens the bad reputation and name they have..
concerned
09-25-2005  4:51 pm
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Rubbish
Bolger is now a Senior umpire and well respected in Leinster. Browne is a former Leinster Captain and again well respected in Leinster. To call them thugs is a disgrace. By the way - Butler and Shaw are Glens players again. They surely wouldn't be coming back to club of thugs....
Leinster
09-26-2005  11:12 am
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Concerned??
And what about Fitzpatrick??!
Glens player
09-27-2005  3:41 am
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anyone who slags glenanne players obviosly dont know the team.to play to your strengths is a good tactic and will be proved this year.as for being called thugs,come down and watch trainin,just a dedicated bunch of lads having a laugh
Anon
09-27-2005  4:36 am
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Leinster
Fitzpatrick is a secondary school teacher. I doubt High School are going to let a thug coach their Senior girls hockey team now are they?? come on get a life!
Leinster
09-27-2005  5:01 am
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Bolger well respected?dont make me laugh!!!!!Browne is well respected,but he's also known as a whinger and has a dirty side to his game that is not respected.A pity because he is a class player.Thats obviously the point anon made from the start:Glenanne have some very good players-but they are also dirty.End of argument/debate.
Glens thru and thru
09-27-2005  7:11 am
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Come on you wimps!!!!
Fitzpatrick is a well respected underage school's coach. A thug would not be helping the future of this sport. He is a big lad, naturally there will be a physical side to his game. The people who are writing bad stuff on this about Glenanne just don't know the players. Writing stuff about people who you don't even know is a disgrace. Would you not talk about other issues of the Irish game like an all Ireland league and the promotion of the sport in the country. If you were as passionate about them kind of issues it would do the sport a lot more good.
Young Glenanne Player
09-27-2005  7:22 am
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Striker
Sorry Striker, your right. Just upset with what people are saying about my club.
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