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July 27, 2005
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Jason Lee, England Men?s Head Coach, has selected 17 of the 18 man squad to participate in the European Nations Cup in Leipzig from 28 August ? 4 September.
Scott Cordon (Cannock) is being given an extended selection period, until 7 August, to judge his fitness to compete, along with his performance level, after a hand operation that has kept him from competing since the Champions Challenge in April.
The same squad will also participate in two Test Matches against Scotland at Peffermill on 6 & 7 August and the Rabobank Trophy in Amsterdam between 14 & 21 August.
PLAYER ISSUES
Goalkeeper selection
In a close competition between the goalkeepers, it was felt that Jon Ebsworth?s performance level for his club Surbiton, and for his country, over the last 14 months had elevated him to the current number 1 performing goalkeeper available for England. Nick Brothers has exceptional talent as clearly emphasised by John Hurst, the Goalkeeper Coach, who describes him as the most naturally talented goalkeeper he has seen, but his performance needs to improve to become number 1. He has been selected to provide Nick the opportunity to become comfortable in the international environment. Nick now has the weight of expectation on his shoulders and he has had it made clear that this is an opportunity he must grasp through extending his focus on training and development.
James Fair (Cannock) is the number 3 goalkeeper and non-travelling reserve. Jimi Lewis was not selected in the squad and subsequently has decided not to be a reserve and instead go back to work for his club in Germany.
Defenders
Unfortunately the group lost a number of defenders through the programme through injury and unavailability. Matt Lee and Peter Riley were invited to join the group in May, but shortly after this Peter Riley had to withdraw due to work commitments and Matt Lee suffered a broken thumb followed by a twisted ankle that seriously reduced his chance of selection. Consequently Matt has been named as a non-travelling reserve.
Jon Brown has not managed to force himself into the confirmed selection of the 17, but it is considered that the last place for the Europeans will be filled by either Jon or Scott Cordon, with the decision coming after the two games against Scotland in Edinburgh on the 6 and 7 August.
The selected defenders offer a range of abilities. Richard Mantell and Ben Hawes provide excellent penalty corner options, whilst Brett Garrard, as Captain has double the caps of the next most capped player and will be looked upon to provide the experience and leadership to this very young squad.
Ben Marsden must be the surprise selection, especially as he has played abroad for the last three seasons and so not familiar to the English hockey watcher. His performance level has been impressive in training and during the games v Wales, as has his ability to fit within the team?s playing patterns. Significantly Ben provides flexibility of position and PC skills that enhanced his claim for selection.
Midfielders
The main midfield group of Middleton, Kirkham, Alexander and West, with support from Moore are the heartbeat of the team, and despite their youth, they have shown impressive maturity.
Unfortunately Matt Taylor and Jon Peckett, who both have undergone knee surgery over the past year, have not been able to return to training in time for the Europeans. It is hoped that they will be able to return for the start of the 2005-06 Premier National League season and then compete for a position in the international team for 2006.
Forwards
Martin Jones has been named as a non-travelling reserve. After two major injuries over the last 15 months (broken hand and a knee cartilage tear) Martin has been unable to find a performance or fitness level to force his way into the squad.
James Tindall has been selected having shown great ability in front of goal (scoring 8 in 13 games for his country in official and unofficial games) as well as an aggressive and hardworking attitude on the pitch. James had only played U16 international hockey before last summer, so his rise to the seniors has been meteoric, with the support from his club Old Georgian?s being key.
The rest of the forwards all offer different qualities, but it is especially hoped that Matt Daly can continue his rich goal scoring run that we have seen over the current international programme, where he has scored 12 in the last 18 official and unofficial games.
Support
Jason Lee would like to acknowledge the support the players have received from their education establishments, employers and clubs.
Special thanks go to:-
Pat Land and Reading for the extra weekly sessions they provided for Richard Mantell, Jon Brown and Jonty Clarke to support their preparation.
Nick Thompson, who significantly helped with extra sessions for Richard Alexander, James Tindall and, also, Jon Brown.
Old Georgians for the additional support they provided for James Tindall.
Jon Royce and Surbiton for the support to Jon Ebsworth, Matt Daly and Rob Moore, for helping to unearth Ben Marsden and allowing us to train on their pitch through the summer.
Loughborough University, for providing additional pitch time for the preparation of Jerome Goudie, Glenn Kirkham, Ali Wilson and Barry Middleton.
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Hockey Observer
07-28-2005 6:36 pm
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Selections
Well there it is all the selectors thoughts out in the open.......
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Lought5
07-29-2005 3:09 am
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Good Luck
Young looking side, plenty of time to prepare though, good luck to everyone.....
Nice to see Jerome back, anyone who's played against him or trained with him will know his disgustingly high work rate!
No real contentious issues, bar the keepers but that was always goin to happen after the retirement of Mase.
Lets keep this link positive, we all have our opinions&comments, lets keep them construtive.
Good luck again fellas
M
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gk
07-29-2005 10:30 am
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so lee boy has picked the 2 keepers who underperformed at the champions challenge! I wonder who will get the nod for the game v belgium in the european cup after the knightmare that happened last time!
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07-29-2005 10:39 am
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I agree with Mr Hughes, but how about we slag him off instead
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A Mate.
07-29-2005 12:18 pm
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Lee Boy
I just knew Lee Boy would stand up and be counted. Well done mate and I hope the HEL management will now take note and also become accountable & transparent to the game and it members they purport to serve.
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les limbrick
07-30-2005 11:54 am
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selection
Nice to see the way Jason is thinking and bringing along which is after all a very young squad.Lets give them the support they deserve.
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observer
07-30-2005 12:02 pm
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Old georgians and Nic Thompson
Nice to see ogs and there new coach nic thompson getting thanks .I understand they are also getting a state of the art water base .How far has this club come since they were formed 10 years agoi.
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Giles Cadman
07-31-2005 11:33 pm
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Prediction
Is there a target finish spot?
Great to see honest and open comments on players. It would be nice to know what the objective is before they get on the plane. Notwithstanding gold is the goal, but what is the objective?
This highly talented group could be around for a while, would be sad if they get broken up if the yapping public don't know the objective and slate a top 6 finish.
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Lought5
08-01-2005 8:08 am
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Target?
Isnt the aim finish in the top two so we don't have to play our league season into the middle of summer next year?!
Please correct me if i'm wrong but thats the impression i got as to how the season is structured this coming year?!
Again though, if Lee boy does state an objective (&sorry to be the pesimist here) & fails then everyone in this country will jump on his back& call for stupid changes& resignations. Like we do with every sport, cricket very much coming to mind. Maybe a clever move to leave out that little piece of information?
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Lands23
08-01-2005 12:00 pm
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lought5
Do you play hockey Lought5, premier league? It's all about pace at that level, is it not?
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Giles Cadman
08-01-2005 2:29 pm
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Management of expectations
I agree with your point about the pinheads jumping up and down, which is precisely why he should let us know what he expects to achieve.
If they fail to achieve the objective then surely some positive commentary like the above will enable those who were not there to understand what is happening, which should in turn placate the jibers.
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Nat Prem 1st player
08-03-2005 2:16 am
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Selection
What I would like to see published is Jason Lee's top 30 players including those already in the squad. It would be nice to see who is in the pecking order and that includes myself and other team mates at my club.
I fear regardless of ability or performance, if your not on his list now, you have no chance of making it in the future as I believe his life span as england manager only has another 3 years max.
I know we have 2 better players in our club than at least 7 of those in the current set-up and have played and seen another 7or 8 within other clubs who have not even been invited to training days. Lee only limits himself by not letting everyone know who are possible contenders and therefore proves he does not have the vision required to hold onto his current position as manager of England.
Readers please don't come back with the same old story about naming players and that the U21 are an extention of the full international squad as only 2 or 3 would make my club side and that includes benching.
So far Lee as only been partually transparent and needs to be fully open with the hockey public if he doesn't want his butt kicked every time the national team under perform and those of his squad he has to be 100% open.
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Lought5
08-03-2005 3:11 am
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Pace?
Pace? Wouldn't know anything about that sorry.....
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Teacher
08-03-2005 8:50 am
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Nat prem 1 player
I agree with your posting. Everyone would like to know the names of the players Lee Boy has as back up if any !!.
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Rankings?
08-04-2005 6:43 am
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Why
Sorry, not a fan of the idea. Not too sure what it will achieve. Cant think of any other true team sport where they do it (correct me if i'm wrong).
Apart from personal gain, "i'm the 29th best player in the country", just can't see the point.
Players go in and out of form, and true, 'class is permanent, form is temporary', but for us to have this sort of 'ranking' would we not need a far greater infrastructure of TV coverage, coaching conferances and a 'Sven' like ability for Lee Boy to watch every match....
Eeryone who is good, or nearly good enough will play. There has been enough England A/B fixtures for potential talent to be recognised. Everyone/anyone who has even met Lee Boy or Vinnie seems to play in that side.
Lets not forget though why we play this game....A vast majority of players out there are Amateur or Semi Pro at best. We play this game for fun, because we enjoy it!
Instead of wanting 'international recognition' may i suggest Mr 'Prem Player' you concentrate on club success with all your wonderful players and the rest will follow.... If in any doubt just look at the L'boro/Cannock/reading/Surbiton programmes and next to their players names will be the proof!
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Observer
08-04-2005 8:23 am
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Rankings
You have your thoughts regarding this topic but the majority of players have the same opinion as the premier league player. And how do you knw he doesn't play for one of the top 2 teams as he never mentioned if he had any team members in the current england side.
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oracle
08-04-2005 9:45 am
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Selected - 1, Brothers 2, Ebsworth 3, Garrard 4, Hawes 5, Alexander 6, Kirkham 7, Marsden 8, Moore 9, Middleton, 10, West 11, Tindall 12, Daly 13, Clarke 14, Stedman 15, Mantell 16, Goudie 17, Wilson 18/19, Cordon or Brown
Not Selected - 20, Lewis 21, Fair 22, Pearn 23, Jones 24, Riley 25, Lee 26, Ramsden
U21's - 27, S.Mantell 28, D'Souza 29, Cheeseman 30, Watts
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Barney
08-04-2005 10:55 am
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Oracle
Exactly! As Oracle has shown, Lee has named a large number of players who are in the squad or are on the fringes. You can always argue for more but this is a lot more than is usual in hockey or any other major sport.
Observer - those not in that 30 are always like to know where they stand but im afraid that I would much prefer Lee to concentrate on (a) selecting the best people he thinks he can, (b) jusitifying the selction - which he has openly and then (and most importantly) (c) coaching those selected to ensure that they are well drilled to win matches .... im afraid pansying up to those outside the 30 odd is just a waste of time no matter how "nice".
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Addition to Oracle
08-04-2005 3:50 pm
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More from the article
Other players to add even to that 30 that Jason mentions are Matt Taylor and Jon Peckett.
To Nat Prem Player and Observer theres your 30+ players (from 11 differing clubs not just top 3/4) and even though you don't want to name them go for it, can't think of many better players around the Premier league (as that is the league you say you play in) that are not that 30 that Jason has tried over the past 9 months.
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Christopher
08-04-2005 8:31 pm
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Why no Asian players?
Can any one comment or explain the absence of players of Indian or Pakistani extractionin in the squad and in England and GB squads in general? This seems extraordinary to me considering the large Indian/Pakitani population in England and their love of Hockey.
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Dribbler
08-05-2005 2:16 am
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Because they play for themselves and dont know how to work in a team pattern. 11 indiviuduals never beat a team....there you go.
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International Observer
08-05-2005 2:26 am
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Typical!!!
And there was me thinking we could get through an entire thread without the RIDICULOUS asian players in England debate....just face it - there are NONE good enough to play for England & THAT is why they are not picked or close to being so!!!!!
End of story.
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P
08-05-2005 2:27 am
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Christopher
There are no players of asian extraction that are up to the standard, even if the standard is lower than ever at the moment.
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HHH
08-05-2005 3:34 am
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Christopher....please not this again!
My dissertation was on Stacking& Channeling In the EHL. In lamens terms the 'alledeged placing of asian& non white players in non-central positions'
The classic phrase used in the most books is 'oh, your black you must be quick, go play on the wing'.... To quote Jamie Foxx in any given sunday "its not Racism its Placism".
Now how far this goes to answering your question i don't know, I am certainly NOT saying that the EHL coaches might be racist, that is not my point&i certainlyt don't want this to open up the can of worms that as this arguement allways does.
To answer your question THERE IS QUITE SIMPLY NOBODY GOOD ENOUGH.
A better way to look at the arguement is too look at:
The demise of the asian summer tournaments....
Where have all the role models gone? Classics being Kulbir Bura, Imran Sherwani & Soma Singh....Where's the next name, there isnt one?
Why havent Indian Gym& Barford Tigers (to name but two) produced the awesome level of players they were producing 10years ago?
I was only chatting last night to the boys at the club about this& saying i really wanted some of my school kids to go along to indian tournaments and learn ALL they neeed to learn.
My honest opinion about this is that i believe alot of the England junior coaches might have it very wrong.
Why oh why would you be telling Cheesy to practice hitting hour after hour, telling him he must pass the ball more& play to a strict formation. The boy has skills&ability beyond most mens dreams, let the boy play! If anything work on what he must do AFTER he has beaten the first 2 players....
Could you imagine Imran or Kulbir back in day practicing their hitting hour upon hour? I think not.
Hope i havent offended anyone with these views.
HHH
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Bored
08-05-2005 4:14 am
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Re;Christopher
Here we go again with the "why no Asians" debate. This topic bores me to tears as there is one simple answer to the question.
The best players are selected on individual performance not race or religion. If the management felt that a player in this squad could be bettered by another they would be swapped. No doubt about it. We are not dealing with institutional racism, nor should we be looking to adopt the player quota system which has plagued some international cricket teams.
The question should be (without being inflamatory) why, if the british asian community is so proud of their hockey heritage and believe that they produce talent that can compete with the names listed above for places, the community does not invest more into producing stars for the selectors to look at and assess?
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By-stander
08-05-2005 7:22 am
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I know that there is a constant on going debate about the Asian players or lack thereof in 'Representative' hockey. From an outside point of view, the best players in the country need to put themselves in a position to be seen. To be the best you need to play with the best and put yourself in the best league, to compete on a par with the current 'representatives' week in week out. If people are not prepared to do that - regardless of their race, religion, gender or any other defing factor - then they mustn't complain. Do you see players complaining that they are being under represented because they are from a certain area of the country, or play for a certain club? The fact of the matter is that if you believe you are good enough get yourself to a Premier 1 club, play some decent hockey. How many times have we heard the arguement that Jason Lee struggles to get to see Premiership games, so why would he watch lower league games over the current Premiership.
In no other sport have I seen such an arguement. Whoever you are, whatever your race or religion, wherever you are from, let me give you some advice.....things in this life do not just appear on your doorstep, if you want something badly enough you've got to go out and get it!
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Next Step
08-05-2005 8:48 am
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What some people miss is that just because someone is good at club level doesn't mean they are going to cut it internationally.
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Confused Hockey Player
08-05-2005 10:33 am
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By stander
Please tell us what league do Old Georgians play as I seem to have missed something.
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oracle
08-05-2005 10:50 am
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confused hockey player
Old Georgians play in Division One. There is one player in the England team from there, I think. He is not very good, but just probably fits the way that England want to play. If he stands in front of the goal and puts it in the back of the net he has done his job
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jimbob
08-05-2005 11:14 am
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Past Masters
I think I go along with most of what HHH says but what I would say is that Kulbir, Soma etc spent hours working on their weaknesses as well as their strengths and also put a lot of thought into their physical training. We have good teams and coaches at the top of the pyramid but a poor breeding ground not very far below. If you put the lack of work ethic together with the level of coaching in general then it takes a very special player to get beyond those handicaps. There are some good players around whatever their descent but the pool of international prospects is not that big and that has a lot to do with what happens between U14-18 level. High Wycombe, KGS, Wellington, St Georges to name a very few are consistently producing good prospects and that is part of the problem. If you look at the Dutch model there is no 'school team' and players have some continuity with a club and a player has a well trodden route open to anyone, using simialr coaches, facilities which are centralised in one location. There are plenty of talented players around but these days talent alone just is not enough.
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white boy
08-05-2005 11:16 am
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You arrogant fool, when did England last beat either Pakistan or India in an International. I seam to recall the last 2 ocassions England played Pakisan letting in a bucket load of goal.
What sucsess has England or great Britain had since 1988 playing white boys, that is why english coaches and management are doomed because they can't adapt to change.
I bet anybody on this web site that England and Great britian win nothing worth while in the next 10 years and will not even qualify for the 2012 olympics in london.
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nat prem player
08-05-2005 1:31 pm
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Old Georgians
They currently play nat 2 but will dominate premier league within 2 seasons thats if you listen to them, and they believe they will, so good luck to them as they are a good bunch of guy's.
Likely teams that will be looking at relegation from premier 1 in season 2005-6 Canterbury. Hampstead & Westminster. Chelmsford. Old loughts. East grinstead.
Promoted from div 2 to premier 1 2005-6 Holcome (just signed another couple of internationals) & Old Georgians.
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christopher
08-06-2005 2:03 pm
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I seem to have opened a Pandora's Box and touched a few raw nerves with what was just a simple question regarding the lack of players of Asian extraction in our international squads.
I did not mean to suggest that there was any form of racism involved in the selections;after all, coaches would be stupid to pass over good players who could help their teams win, no matter what the colour of their skin might be.
I am sorry if anyone took it the wrong way and I hope that we will again see Asian players in our GB/England teams soon.
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whiter boy
08-06-2005 5:48 pm
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i'll take you up on your bet about england not qualifiying for their own olympics. If the stimulus of playing in front of a home crowd wasn't big enough, think about the young prospects coming up such as ashley jacksonand the prycies etc. You are obvious a bitter little man who didn't make selection.
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ex- asian national league player
08-07-2005 12:59 pm
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asain players
i understand that the asian debate on players is a little boring and repetetive but i honestly believe amrit singh from old loughts does have what it takes to play international hockey. his skilll level, fitness (which used to be in question, however has improved a great deal) and understanding of the game is on par if not greater than some of the current players in the england set-up.
he should be seen as he is playing some excellent hockey and should be given a chance. Not because hes asian but quite simply because he is a better player than wilson, moore etc. who are currently in the england set-up.
Trust me... this boy should make it to London 2012
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08-07-2005 5:24 pm
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Amrit Singh quit national league hockey in 2004 and therefore quit any chance of making an england squad. he probably hasn't trained properly since. keep up
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08-07-2005 8:45 pm
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haha, thats pretty funny........one side, one person is saying that they don't take asians because they dribble too much, and 1 player can't beat 11........lol.........and then the other side says, and is quite correct in saying that England can''t beat and hasn't beaten Indian or Pakistan......lol..........indian and pak may not be numbe 1 or 2 in te world, but their certainly ranked higher than england and do much better than them on the international stage....
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white boy (reading member)
08-08-2005 1:15 am
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you talk rubbish
I'v watched Ashley Jackson play and you are correct he will make the 2012 games "if we qualify" but I also know that there is a better player at EG week-in-week-out that Lee boy won't look at for what ever reason, and before you all start bleeping, I know this lad played crap in the end of season play-offs, but this was one of the rare occassions so I am reliabbly informed by their coach. I believe this EG player has vision and skill and would improve even further under Jason Lee's coaching guidance and make the grade, just ask KB (EG coach) who he rates as the best EG player.
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Lought5
08-08-2005 3:59 am
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Ammy
Come back& get fit big man, we need you!
Arguably one of the most talented players in the league on his day.... Now get fit & see you at training??!!
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J
08-08-2005 5:56 am
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RE:Christopher
I'm sorry Christopher but if you ask why there are no Asian players in the current set up then you ARE questioning that there is racist selection going on in hockey. Questioning the absence of a racial group from the current squad implies that there race is a defining factor and is some how is preventing their progrssion.
Everyone has their opinion on selection groups, fringe players, current premiership players but at the end of the day, rightly or wrongly there is one man who is responsible for the national squad. Whatever our opinions we will not change his personnal view. Black, white, asian, northerner, southerner or from anywhere else. Lee picks the squad he believes will bring the most success. Whether we agree or not.
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The Desolate One
08-08-2005 9:06 am
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Lought 5.
Your call for the pertulant child to return to the fold of Old Loughtonians beacuse the club 'needs' him will not aid in the improving of his attitude. It is this process by the likes of yourself praising him on his 'potential' at every opportunity is the reason this guy will never make it. It's about time that people like you and indeed Ammy wake up and 'smell the coffee' - to make in our beloved game takes heart, passion and determination 3 qualities I am sad to report that Mr Ammy does not posess. Mr Ammy needs to dedicate himself to the game and work hard if success is what he courts and not rest on his laurels and be showered by unwarranted praise and accolades.
Remember what the great Roy Castle sang in the Record Breakers's signature tune "..DEDICATION IS ALL YOU NEED.." sadly
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Lought5
08-08-2005 9:30 am
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The Desolate One
Well clearly he's done something pretty spectacular to p**s you off to the level where you need to post something on a website....
Sorry for you!
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08-08-2005 5:14 pm
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1) HHH - if you did a dissertation on the load of nonsense you were spouting - and passed - then educational standards are clearly well beyond dumbed down. You can't spell, your grammar is shocking and your arguments are a load of twaddle. You mention 'your school kids' ... I sure hope you're not a teacher!!!
2) I will happily take a bet from anybody on Great Britain qualifying for our own Olympics - we are hosting the damn things and unless we manage to plumb the depths over the next seven years and end up as bad as Greece, we will qualify by right.
3) Can we now get some sense into this thread?
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Asian Players
08-08-2005 8:18 pm
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Apologies
As an asian I would like to apologise for the other asians coming on this site and talking nonsense. Whilst all asians would like to see a few asians in side unfortunately there aren't enough young asian players coming through. None from the current crop are good enough and thats the reality. Good asian players have been given chances in the past and will continue to be given chances only if they are good enough.
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rambler
08-08-2005 9:56 pm
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In fairness, India and Pakistan have hardly been stacking the cabinets with Trophies since the late 80's either.
Hockey is a sport that gets high level media attention as and when the fickle media decide we deserve it, ie, when there looks like a chance we might win some kind of medal somewhere, or, in the instance there is a really good-looking woman playing the game - sad, but true. This attention breeds new interest in the game.
If the young players dont see any role models to aspire to, then where next? Ask anyone on the street in England, to name a hockey player, and they will, 99% of the time reel off 'Sean Kerly'. This is a pretty damning condemnation of the state of our sport there. Imagine asking someone to name a footballer and the last one high profile one they could remember was Kevin Keegan.
There are probably 1000's of young Asians, as there are kids over the world, pointlessly trying to learn drag-flicks as the finesse of the 80s game is gone and Abbas is probably the most high profile Asian player - Pakistan did whip England but its often a one-man show.
Sherwani's goal in the '88 final is the kind of thing that made me want to play the game, and the success we got there caused a huge boost in people taking up the sport. I am sure if similar successes were experienced, by England, India or Pakistan in the future then the increase in people of all races taking up the sport in their respective countries would increase again too. Maybe then the balance will shift.
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Hockey Observer
08-09-2005 1:11 am
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Next Step
Your comments are one of the most relevant on this thread.......but..... sometimes they will need to be tried out to be found out. Jason seems to be trying a fair mix and they, in his opinion, fit his mould so now that he has laid his cards on the table he will live or die by them come the end of the Euro's. I think Giles Cadman asked for Jason to state their goal for the Euro's. This would be interesting to find out. I would guess though that they will be at World Cup Qualifier next year. Good luck guys in Holland first and then at the Euro Champs.
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08-09-2005 2:36 am
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Why, Why, Why as English people do we put our coaches and players down before they have even started...???? Expecting them to fail from day one, bickering about who the coach should have selceted and claiming that some of the players that the coach has selected are not as good as players from other players clubs.........STOP...!!!!
For once can we please stop having ago, lets congratulate the players for being selected, congratulate the coach for putting his thoughts down and out to the public, (as far as I am aware this is the first time this has been done), lets get behind the squad give them all the support they need, to become the team that we all hope they can be.
And you never know what might happen......... To Jason and the coaching staff, all the very best, to the players selected I say, good luck, play well, and enjoy....
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astro's
08-09-2005 3:08 am
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I think we have to remember that hockey is a team sport and eleven players on the pitch if play togather as a team, can certainly win tournaments. However, we do have some postings that focus on certain players as being better than others and I think it could be friends supporting their 'friends' or have played togather at some point.
I lot of it is having a strong mental attitude since most teams at this level operate at similar levels of skills, etc. Taking your chances when it comes is the key in winning matches.
Interesting to see one of the postings here giving a list of clubs on the relegation zone. Half the clubs playing Premier are mentioned so this does tell you that some do not watch any or probably some matches.
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HHH
08-09-2005 3:33 am
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Depressed
My 2:1 went well thankyou even with my dyslexia, my schoolgirls are U18regional champions, several of my school boys have had UK lions& U16 honours this year, and yes, their grades are top notch.
Thankyou for for your kind words of 'Sense'.
As your knowledge of 'Stacking& Channelling within the EHL' if far greater than mine then please feel free to publish your findings on this website. I'd be more than willing to peruse your oh so wonderful thoughts& ideas.
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dobby
08-09-2005 3:58 am
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confused hockey player
I am guessing, after your comments about OG's and JT their current england player, that you havent seen him play for england, and that you yourself have very little knowledge of the current set up and game.
Jealous that you yourself where never very good and will never make it, so it must be better to put other people with success at the beginning of their international career down.
I must say from your comments you consider yourself an awesome hockey player, so congratulations on your successfull international carrer.
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Depressed
08-09-2005 5:49 pm
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HHH
The fact we are giving degrees based on studies of the woeful National League is enough evidence for me to rest my case.
Couldn't you at least investigate why it is so crap? Why it doesn't prepare our players (of any colour) for international hockey? Why it breeds non-conformist coaches who peddle their own unproven theories at the expense of all-round player development? Why it is a desert for skill, tactics, entertainment, spectators?
Stacking and Channelling?!!! Give me strength!
Go and get a proper degree!
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The Desolate One
08-10-2005 12:32 pm
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To your inquiry, no he has not 'spectacularly p*ssed' me off, I am just telling it like it is - just like a Budwiser beer [TRUE].
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