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Watcher
05-19-2005 12:21 pm
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Early Selection
Wow, that's pretty early to select a team, not giving anybody a chance to play their way on to the team over the summer. Not sure but is this the exact same team that played in Puerto Rico? Sometimes I think it is good to leave selection until later to create a competitive atmosphere for training.
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JWC
05-19-2005 6:17 pm
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Why Take a 5th midfielder??? The forwards on this team are injury prone... need to sub them most likely.
Decent selections.. but Flexman, O'hara and Baker could definately should be replaced.
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Training time
05-19-2005 11:21 pm
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The team needs to prepare and train together - so many bad Canadian results have been blamed on lack of pre-event preparation and/or playing time as a unit. At least this time, that won't be an excuse...
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Viper
05-20-2005 12:42 am
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Hmmmm
I guess someone at FHC actually reads this. They have listed the Club names as was suggested.
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Selections
05-20-2005 1:56 am
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Was there a walk on camp for new players??? a selection camp??? a swimsuit competition??? how about an evening gown competition???
No new girls got a look, no tryouts or chances for anyone new to have a chance. Atleast walk them down a run way and give new girls a chance to make an impression instead of hand picking a team. Then girls no why they didn't make it... opposed to having no clue what selections were based on.
What is FHC protocol??? must have atleast one open try-out per team a year to find new talent or give new players opportunity.
Regardless of the quality of the team you need to give some players a shot of making the team
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Ms. X
05-20-2005 9:36 am
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Selections
Selections, That is the way Mr. Kanjee works. Very narrow focus on the players he knows and not interested in any one new that may have a shot.
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agreed
05-20-2005 10:01 am
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I think the girls do need to have a far shot at making the team. Was there a camp and if not then why? At least then people feel they had a chance to be looked at.
I also agree with watcher, name the team 3 weeks in advance. I know some say this isn't enough time, but if you have every training together, they will all be on the same page. This way training will be harder and more intense because then the girls will have to fight for their spots.
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Uhmm...
05-20-2005 1:33 pm
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Selections
everyone had a chance to try out. open trials where held, in 3 diffrent places across the country. learn the info before you bash the coach.
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anon
05-20-2005 3:36 pm
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I'm not bashing the coach, if there were trials, then great.
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Selections
05-21-2005 4:03 am
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Where were the selections?? I know there was no open trial in Vancouver after Junior Pan Ams this season. Obviouslly there were tryouts.. but how long ago. Nothing in Vancouver since Junior Pan Ams.
So no Vancouver athletes were given the opportunity to try out the in this period. Uhmm... maybe I was wrong.. there may have been selection camps.. but none in Vancouver.. where the majority of the players play.. where Mr Kanjee lives.
So I did learn the info about tryouts in my region.. and I am not bashing the coach... I am questioning how the program is run. If your a player who is on the team... then good for you.. your not going to complain.
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Ken
05-21-2005 4:48 pm
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Club Names
Great to see club names listed behind the players. I too congratulated FHC for reading these postings.
Lets keep this up for all Rep teams in future!
Good Luck to the girls
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BC
05-21-2005 8:32 pm
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Re: Selections
Vancouver trials were held May 7th and 8th
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Selections
05-22-2005 10:43 pm
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No... Canada Summer Games Trials were held on 7th. You may say.. they were used for both teams... well thats awful.. because Canada Summer Games Trials was not an Open selection for all players on the one day.
Secondly.. A National Team Walk On Camp would specific specific norms or criteria what the coach is looking for for players/members to make the National team. Not a coach saying I saw some girls sometime playing somewhere. The National team coach runs the sessions and lays down what it takes to make the team... fitness standards.. certain elements of skill/tactical awareness that is required.
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Watcher
05-23-2005 4:08 am
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Trials
I would have been around the field on May 7 and 8 and I saw no semblence of a national team tryout. Maybe I missed something, but I think that this team needs a hard tour right before the JWC so they will be match ready. None of this time-off stuff pre-tourney....they must go in on a high and be match ready...that is the only way that they will be ready.
Let's go girls play hard, challenge each other throughout the summer, and come out with a good result in September.
Canadian teams get results through hard work and resilience....bring something home for us to be proud of.
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BC fanatic
05-23-2005 12:48 pm
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The Vancouver trials were not open. In fact, no one knew they were happening concurrently with the Canada Summer Games event which was a closed trial. No advertisement, period. FHC has little control of Hash, he does what he wants and then throws one of his patented tantrums when he doesn't get his way. Hope Sally can rein him in.
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BC
05-23-2005 10:06 pm
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You are all unrealistic
What National / Junior National coach would hold an OPEN walk-on style camp just 4 months before a MAJOR competition such as the Junior World Cup?
NONE
Hash attended several CLOSED camps in May, across the country.
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Hmm...
05-23-2005 10:13 pm
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There was oen day of open trials. If ppl weren't invited to the CSG trials what kind of chance do you think they had of making the Jr. team>? Maby that's beside the point, however if they are that much of a stand-out...They would have been able to show there abilities in the open trial.
F/H players are'nt made of money. No money for a tour.
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Selections
05-24-2005 12:21 pm
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When did Junior Pan Ams finish???? He didn't have to run an Open Trial now... could have and should have been done earlier.
A coach would have had some type of camp.. to find new players.. obviouslly time frame between Jr Pan Ams and Jr World Cup is a bit tight... but ya might be missing out on a player you have never seen before.
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Carl
05-24-2005 7:56 pm
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Good players are noticed!
As a matter of interest to some.
I was involved in Canadian Field Hockey at a variety of levels during my time in Canada (2001-2003) and in my final weeks in Vancouver assisted in a training camp/trial which I think was the beginning of the Junior World Cup Qualifier/Junior World Cup preparation. This camp/trial lasted for 4-5 day's and covered extensive, training, game play, fitness work and skill development /assessment.
The camp involved around 30 athletes from all over the country.
Good players are noticed and with a multi tiered system within the female system for field hockey within Canada it is very difficult for players of high ability not to be noticed. With the Provincial, High School, Intervarsity, Club, Nationals (Senior, U21, U18, U16) tournaments that are held and with Provincial and University coaches liasing with high school and club coaches when recruiting athletes it seems difficult for someone to fall through the gaps. Any player that participates in these streams of competition would definitely be identified by recruiting scouts, team coaches, apposing coaches etc if they indeed have the ability to go further.
I feel that the coaching staff(Hash, Sherrie and other support staff) and the athletes involved have done a fantastic job in qualifying for the Junior World Cup and should be commended and supported in their effort, and definitely not critisized or questioned. The process is never going to suit everybody but the fact is that the better players will be noticed during the normal process of playing in a variety of competitions at a variety of levels and if your not being selected at these levels it is telling you that the ability of those athletes is not up to the required standard.
Whether you like it or not at the elite level you have to make choices and everybody has their preferred process. But at the end of the day the better players still stand out regardless of the process that is followed to help identify the better athletes.
Some people contributing to this thread seem to have problems with the process and it seems that this may be because someone that they know in some shape or form did not make the side, or get an opportunity to make the side. I'd like to ask these people that are being critical what positions that they hold in the Field hockey community, and what processes they follow when making their selections. Or are you the "Side line Experts" that always know whats best even though you don't contribute your time and effort to improve the system? It's just a question as not many of the contributors to this thread put their name to their comments!!!!!!!!!
Finally the better players that were around in 2003 are the majority of those selected in this team and rightly so. Congratulations to all those selected and I hope that you can help in the revival of Canadian field hockey in the future.
All the best from Downunder.
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Selections
05-24-2005 8:24 pm
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Agreed Mr Dalton that the process will not suit everyone. But that camp was held 2 years ago, many of those girls have quit... and many of the girls who are coming up who don't have a chance to play in the CIS or don't have as much exposure as those in specific regions of the country haven't had a chance.
The open camp allows the coach to select when seeing all of the talent at once, current players and up and coming ones. Opposed to seeing certain players in an isolate environment away form the national team. He can make a more informed decision on players after training them versus his current players.
I agree Junior teams are different from senior teams. The time frame for events is short. I have heard Hash goes to many events to look at talent, but is that selecting for the Junior National Team.... or for the UBC Thunderbirds.
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mamun
05-25-2005 1:51 am
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sherry , nice work, cool going , keep it up,
i hope you'll be success chile.
take care
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critical
05-25-2005 9:22 am
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changeup
why is hash the coach. have we been unable to bring new, better qualified folks into the program? same old story. what about some youth. what about someone that understands modern management, leadership and a frwd looking view of the game...
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competitor
05-25-2005 5:12 pm
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good luck canada
Very strange decision to select the squad this early. I think you will find that its done very differently abroad in european countries who i can imagine will offer quite a bit of competiton to your squad. What happens if you pick up injuries. There is no competition for places. No motivation for people to work that little bit harder. At least have a working squad of 25-30 players. Very strange
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Carl
05-26-2005 1:02 am
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Selections, Anonymous
Yes the camp was two years ago, its called planning and building to peak at a future point in time, which shows how involved the process is over a long period of time.
Out of Curiosity I would like to know of the many girls that have quit. As 14 of the participants in that camp have been selected. A number of the athletes that were at the camp qualified by age to participate in the Qualifier but would not qualify for the Junior World Cup as they would then be over age. Most of hese athletes have participated in Intervasity sport, and Provincial teams since the camp. So once again please name the players from this camp that have in fact quit?
Olympic teams are moulded over 2,3,4 and sometimes more years to help to try and get the desired results. And yes most of this goes unseen by many but it still does occurr and regularly. Maybe some don't get the mail out!!!!!, or a courtesy phone call!!!!!! oh I forgot this is for a National team we're talking about isn't it, and not some participation, feel good exercise that so many want!!!!!! to try to keep all happy and smiling.
This original camp that I attended was held after a National tour by the head coach of the Women's program to each Province for OPEN CAMPS which were set up by the provincial bodies. This was after an in depth meeting between all of those who were involved with CIS along with all of the coaches that were involved with the National program. Coaches who had been scouting and viewing players over the past year at a variety of levels.
At the OPEN CAMP in Alberta (Edmonton) 40 - 50 players of varying ages(15-early 20's) and skill levels plus any coaches(open to club, regional,high school,University) that were interested attended. The athletes were identified from high school tournaments, club games, school visits, University matches, Provincial tournaments etc All of our talent in AB was seen at once with both current senior, prov, university, and some national players combined with the potential athletes from U16,U18,and U21 age groups over a 3 day period of skill and game sessions.
At the elite level of all sports, people are chosen for positions whether we like it or not. These people are then decision makers, once again whether we like it or not and that may have an influence on us, It's a fact of life that these things do occurr, so once again either accept them or work towards changing them.
There still is so much work to be done to help the sport and other amatuer sports to servive and to create the opportunity for others to enjoy the benefits of playing sport at all levels. For those select few that dicision makers feel are good enough to go onto the elite levels, good on them and lets hope that they succeeed even if others don't. This is competitive sport and things don't alway's work out the way you would like it, but instead of whinging about these dicisions show some character and support those that do make it because they need it.
So once again I say, how much more would you want to do?
How do you justify (financially, time and resource wise) non productive feel good camps for all who feel that they are good enough to attend. For them to then walk away discruntled and dissolusioned after they have been found out to be totally out of their depth, and lacking in skills and game knowledge to even compete at this level. Yes I'm sure that this works wonders for keeping people in the sport and a great boost for their self confidence.
And also what benefits are gained for the more talented participants when the varying standards of each individual bring the overall quality, intensity, and efficiency of the sessions down to a level when the overall benefits gained are questionable. I'm sure I would struggle to get funding from the government bodies for such a GATHERING. When the continued funding for most sports is based upon but not limited to PODIUM FINISHES and MEDALS or WORLD RANKINGS!
GOOD LUCK IN SANTIAGO TO ALL INVOLVED
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critical
05-26-2005 7:14 pm
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ok carl
that's all fine and dandy, but who cares when the staff is unable to convert your brilliant ideas of selection and comparisons to building olympic teams. this is the jwc for goods sake. canada should not build for it alone, but understand how to succeed in the larger picture and bring 'new hockey' and 'advanced mgm' to the forefront. get it together. camps and selections are simply an input to an outcome.
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Canadian observer
05-27-2005 3:06 pm
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Qualification or just plain luck
Just to clarify Carl that the only reason this Jr. team is going to the Jr. World Cup is because Chile got the host berth opening up a spot for the a 4th ranked Pan Am team. In any other Jr. Pan Am qualifier 4th place would not have been good enough....its called getting in the back door. With that in mind a change of some playing personnel is probably not such a bad idea. 4th in the Pan Am region behind the likes of the US and Chile makes the World Cup prospects dim.
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05-28-2005 7:18 pm
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hmm...
Do you think prostpects at the JWC are that slim, when Canada did'nt loose a JWCQ game by more then a goal? When they held the 4th ranked team in the world, till' the final minuites of the 2nd half? Maby with the team traning through the summer they will be able to pull it together for the JWC. Keep in mind the team as not trained as a TEAM consistantally yet. How about a little optimism, seeing the only thing that seperated the US, Chile, and Argentina in the qualifer was one goal!
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CONGRATS!
06-01-2005 4:22 pm
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I would just like to say congratulations to ALL the girls who made the team! It is not constructive to put down the girls who did make this team! Especially not individually. They work very hard!
Don't let your own bitterness ruin a great achievment for very talented athletes!
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bc
06-02-2005 1:18 am
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I would also like to say congrats to all the girls chosen! I know about half of them and they are ALL very talented players and ssoooo dedicated to the game. And don't be bashing on Hash, he is an awesome coach, in fact their whole staff is great.
Good luck girls!
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ztar
06-07-2005 9:24 pm
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Carl's comments
CARL SAYS: "Good players are noticed and with a multi tiered system within the female system for field hockey within Canada it is very difficult for players of high ability not to be noticed. With the Provincial, High School, Intervarsity, Club, Nationals (Senior, U21, U18, U16) tournaments that are held and with Provincial and University coaches liasing with high school and club coaches when recruiting athletes it seems difficult for someone to fall through the gaps."
That is so logical, I can't believe there's even a discussion here. Players ought to be picked on the basis of game play, NOT on performance at camps. If a player is not picked, it is clear, as Carl points out, that she has not established herself through a myriad of club, regional, provincial, varsity, etc competitions. Surely you don't expect some player, who has remained hidden in all of this competition, to suddenly shine at a camp. That's just not plausible. The answer to not being chosen is to buckle down and improve your play at the club level.
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canada fan
06-08-2005 6:28 pm
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where is the pride and where is the support? It is not easy having faith in yourself, and your team if canada isn't supporting the team, where are the positive, "go get em'" comments? good luck girls - come back with a good finish.
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06-09-2005 3:43 pm
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yes i agree that selections should occur through game play, but if this is the case how were some of the girls selected??? at least one of the players currently on the JNT playing in Edmonton at CIS, DID NOT, i repeat, DID NOT even play in her semi-final and final games...now tell me this, how can a player be good enough to make the JNT, but not good enough to play in her semi and final games at CIS tournament?????
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huh?
06-10-2005 2:54 pm
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Perhaps she was the player who was injured in a pool match? From UVic? You imply that this player was benched and not talented enough to play. Please give a name if that is the case. I believe you are talking about an injured player - who is now fit to play.
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06-10-2005 6:57 pm
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you believe wrong, obviously if she was an injured player this wouldn't be an issue. granted she has improved a TON since then, she was given the opportunity to improve by going to chile and being named to the team whereas other players who should have been chosen over her in the beginning were not given that chance and now are not being given the opportunity to prove themselves.
once again interesting to have heard mr. kanjee's reactions to their outcome in puerto rico..."there will be changes" he said...so much for that
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ztar:
06-10-2005 9:41 pm
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re ... and huh?
You both underscore my point. If selections are based on game play -- OVER AN EXTENDED SEASON -- then tryout camps are truly meaningless, and players need not worry whether they were injured or not during any one particular period of play. One tournament (or tryout) does not a season make.
If a player has performed consistently well over a full season, I'm fairly certain that selectors will notice and make the appropriate decisions.
Tryout camps present two significant dilemmas -- validity and reliability of the process.
I'll venture that gameplay is more valid than rather contrived tryout exercises and that this game play, over a long season, is more reliable than a one-off tryout.
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some thoughts
06-17-2005 2:21 pm
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I agree with ... and selections there are ways of having athletes fall through the cracks. If there were a selection camp there is nothing saying that this camp could not be all game play; at least in this situation all the athletes deemed good enough to attend could be matched against eachother to find the players that stand out or work within the goals for the team.
In regards to the camp that was held 3 years ago, who is to say that those athletes are ligitimately the best athletes in Canada today? Agreed they are all good athletes, but from that group, players have stopped playing or have peaked in their abilities. That was 3 years ago, any book talking about growth and development will support the fact that no athlete is in their prime at age 16 or 17 and that performance can be significantly improved with age. The camp was a good idea at the time to get the interest and beginning of a junior national program but some type of selection should be held now if not to select new athletes then at least to push the current athletes to fight for their spot and have some urgency in training for a tournament that may be the biggest one they ever attend.
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ztar
06-17-2005 2:48 pm
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some thoughts
I concur with Some Thoughts re the development of players over time, and the need to constantly re-assess. Quite right that there is a danger of sticking with known entities, identified in previous assessments and camps.
My only question (my objection to tryout camps) concerns the ability to assess through normal league play (be it something like VWFHL, or collegiate, or high school, etc). From my perspective, a season at, VWFHL for example, is worth a dozen camps. This is especially so if the players know that at any (or all) games they might be evaluated.
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06-17-2005 6:19 pm
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there was a camp 3 years ago, i personally am not involved in the program, however i as a player i have improved a tremendous amount since then, whose to say that other girls who were not "exposed" at the time have not improved either. i agree that selections need to occur over seasons and at important games, however i think that after the results the team has come out with over their past 2 tours, and mr. kanjee stating after both trips there needed to be changes, you would think he would have another camp, just like the one 3 years ago to have a peak at other potential players.
ztar on your comment above, OVER AN EXTENDED SEASON players are looked at yes, which is why there was a long list of players produced before CIS nationals. maybe i misunderstand the purpose of a long list, one would think that from this list the JNT would be selected, but how then, would a player slip through the cracks?? how many girls were not on this list were selected??? at least 2 if my memory serves me correctly. i understand that some players may have stood out a certain tournaments, but i just don't understand how mr. kanjee, as the JNT coach and coach of UBC can decide to not put ONE OF HIS OWN UBC PLAYERS on the long list, not play them very much at CIS nationals in round robin play, not play them at all in the semi and final games, yet still think they are good enough to play on the JNT. what's the point in making a long list if you're not going to follow through with it, guess names were pulled out of a hat??? obviously this one player was seen throughout the season, and it was decided by the JNT coach not to play her in the finals, but hey, that's field hockey for yah!!! i guess we have to learn to expect that not all the best players will be selected, there is no problem when it comes to the BEST players (ie. amanda stone), however when you get down to the last few girls guess there's a coin flip these days! as selections says above, give the girls a reason, walk the down the run way and tell them that they walk like a horse and that's why you didn't make the JNT....pathetic
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some thoughts
06-17-2005 7:04 pm
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ztar
Agreed that it is best to assess athletes throughout a season in league play. In an ideal world this would be the best place to see athletes and how they perform in game and league situations but my concern with this is that the coaches cannot be at all league games because of their own team commitments. This causes a problem because then not all athletes get to be shown equally. This again leaves selections to chance that on one single occasion an athlete may shine where they are regularly not the greatest player, this is the same risk to having tryout camps. If there were to be a number of camps then this lessens the risk or chance of these mistakes to happen.
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Just an Observation from an outsider
06-19-2005 9:37 am
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Dear ....
Have you actually looked at the UBC Roster?? They have about 4-5 Senior National Players on that team, how do you expect a Jr national team Player to compete with that?? Maybe before you tear this player up you should look at all the facts. Do you think that one of the reasons why she wasn't playing,is because the University play and game strategy is far different from National team play and strategy... therefore it's very hard to compare.
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06-19-2005 11:43 pm
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yes they have 4-5 national team players NOW, as of january...not as of november. as well you need to consider positions, 2 fwds, 1 sweeper, 1 mid and 1 mid/def, therefor of those 5 you've got 1-2 players for this girl to compete with, i do believe most teams play with 3 midfielders. but really, wouldn't you think that if a player has the ability to play for the JNT she would be able to play/compete with the senior girls and would be able to hold her own??? you've got girls on the UBC team who aren't national team members who played over her. if she were good enough and had the ability to compete at a national level, she would not have been a bench warmer. i agree that it is hard to compare uni play vs. national play, but none of the other currently carded players sat nor did any of the other JNT players who played for a uni sit......it's all a little bit fishy to me!!
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Alternatives
06-20-2005 1:20 pm
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Ok "..." who should have made them ahead of this player you are so keen to slag? You're so hard on her you must have somebody in mind who should have made the team (you, perhaps?). Who should Hash have picked instead?
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Not interested
06-20-2005 6:00 pm
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player bashing
Why are people allowed to use this site to personally bash individual players. It's true names are not being used but it's not very difficult to figure out who the player is. I hope for her sake she doesn't read any of this bitterness or she won't be much good to her team. These girls need morale boosting not put downs..they are the team so get used to it and let's support them 100%.
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ztar
06-20-2005 10:14 pm
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poster ..., I sense your frustration when you assert: "i guess we have to learn to expect that not all the best players will be selected... when you get down to the last few girls guess there's a coin flip these days!"
I mentioned previously that the selection process needs to be based on valid criteria (is what is being observed and used as selection criteria in fact predictive of success at the international level?) and reliable (based on those criteria, will the selectors consistently make the same selections?).
In light of the frustration expressed by "...", I'd like to add that a selection process also needs to be transparent. The criteria used for selection ought to be spelled out before hand. Those on a long list (or short list) who do not get selected ought to be informed about what aspect of their play needs improvement in order for them to progress to the next level. [By the way, would it be fair to assume that this does, in fact, happen?]. If it is generally felt that selection for many of the players amounted to a "coin flip" as expressed by "..." (I find it hard to believe that this would be so at such a high level of competition), then the organization needs to look at improving transparency. As in the case of Caesar's wife, the system must not only BE pure, it also needs to be SEEN to be pure. Any hint of favoritism and politics clearly undermines the whole process and leads to unfortunate threads such as this where some poor player's place on the team is being questioned.
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YaYaY!
06-21-2005 3:03 am
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Everyone here just bashes the players/team/coach, why not accept it? I mean maby the reason members of the team finds it hard to compete at a top level, is because there country doesn't support them!!! Have there back - they made it this far! How can the JNT be expected to suceed when there are a selected few who beleive in them (mostly nat. team members, prior teammates, and coaches). How about some POSITIVE reactions to the selections! There is a lot of young talent which should be recognised!
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06-23-2005 11:34 pm
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i do apologize for bashing players for that was not my intention at all, however i realize that this has become the outcome. my intentions were purely to express my opinions about the selection process, if you can even call it that. the only reason i brought up a player was for an example of how the selection process is extremely foggy. i still question her initial selection in december because it makes no sense, however she has stepped up her game and i do believe that she now is JNT material. had other players been given this same opportunity to be selected in december and have a ton of extra training and national exposure, they to would be up to par at a national level. the selection process for this team has been ridiculous, one camp 3 years ago (which was when most of the girls were coming out of high school...so much time for improvement from every single player selected to attend that camp or not), apparently watching Uni play, making a long list, naming a team consisting of many players not long listed (very questionable), and then an open day camp in TO (really, how many players are from TO), the day before an invitational summer games trial for BC that was apparently a viewing process for mr. kanjee..........these are the facts! this is what went down, i realize it is completely possible that i have missed something, however, the selection process for this team has been suspicious and not fair, i think FHC needs to step up and in in this process and regulate!!!!
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06-24-2005 1:11 pm
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Your last post has some fair comments in it. But you seem to miss your own point. Having a camp in Toronto is a GOOD thing. Hash sees all the Western based players in CW play all year. He doesn't see the players out East - so the camp give those players a shot. And let's be honest here. The vast majority of players on a Jr Nat team will be playing in University. ztar is right that the system has to look transparent. This hasn't been the case here.
You seem to have somebody in mind who was overlooked. Was she in Uni program? East/West? Ever on a list?
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06-26-2005 1:17 am
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i don't think that's important if i have or don't have somebody in mind, the selection process from the beginning has been questionable, everybody has someone in mind who they think should have made the team over another player, that's the way it is. everyone is entitled to their own opinion, mine being the selection process as not being professional and legit
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06-30-2005 3:23 pm
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there are going to be shady selections regardelss. Unless you bring in someone completely neutral, there will be some sort of bias in the selection process. But you have to give kanjee credit for taking so many UVic girls... that says wonders about him. On any team there will be 'border line players' who aren't going to play a signifigant roll. The spectrum of skill level is large on this team, but I don't think there are any players who could walk on the team now and have a substantial roll. The players who could be replaced are hard workers, making them valuable. I think the results of this summer's traning will be apparent at the JWC, with canada proving to be better then there current 15th ranking!
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06-30-2005 5:28 pm
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re: "::"
"..." doesn't want to bag on the players, but has no problem bagging on the coach. But "..." still hasn't said who should be on this team that isn't. I don't care who should be off - but if selections were shady then who was overlooked/ignored?
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gbraun
07-03-2005 3:12 pm
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maturity
Some have said we are way behind the rest of the world in speed of foot and speed of thought. I'd say that we are also behind in maturity if this site is a snapshot of the calibre of intelligence of the field hockey community. Let's grow up everyone...hockeywise and attitudewise also.
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07-07-2005 1:20 am
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is it true that jaime withdrew herself?
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07-13-2005 10:14 pm
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is kanjee going to pick someone else up. if they have been then who is it?
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yes.
07-15-2005 1:31 pm
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yes - Leila Sacre' profile ahs been added to fhc website. My best guess is her.
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07-15-2005 10:29 pm
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young buck out of Delta. Good hitting, poor skills.
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07-19-2005 12:48 pm
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Leila
Awesome Job Leila. You deserve it! She has clearly been one of the top players for a while and its nice to see that her talent is finally seen and rewarded. She is only 16 and has a ton of potential.... just remember not to get too cocky your young and have a lot to learn still. Play hard and have fun. Best of Luck to everyone!!
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re: wer
07-24-2005 7:10 pm
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yes there are other young athlete's, but do they have that potential to play at the international level?
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Re: wer
07-24-2005 7:12 pm
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adding to pervious comment:
Are they able to play at that level at the age there at right now. The two that they have Robyn and Lelia can
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and then some
07-25-2005 5:48 pm
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Robyn + Leila will bnoth be rising to the sr. level soon. Ali Lee is still young too... entering UVIC early! This country has some promising up-and-commers!
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07-27-2005 2:40 pm
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I agree about Leila and Robyn. Although Ali Lee did enter UVIC early should not represent her playing ability. Yes, she may not go straight from the Junior to Senior Team or even before then, but she will make the Sr. Team and we will see good things from her in the future.
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07-28-2005 2:02 pm
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you misunderstood. Ali is still very young, I am just stating that she is only 18, and is playing varsity a year earlier then most her age. I am sure she will do great things, when her time comes.
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07-28-2005 4:33 pm
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Ahhh, I see, but Robyn and Leila are only 16.
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Hockey Nut
07-28-2005 5:58 pm
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Yes, they are 16 as are two of the recent selections for the US Team. Also, there were 16 year olds on teams at the recent MJWC. Plus Canada has often had one or two 16 year olds on both the men's and the women's teams in the past as they will eligible for the next Junior World Cup as well.
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07-29-2005 1:40 am
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Robyn has had 2 tour's in the bag, where as Leila this will be her firsst, just getting picked up as the last player. There are lots of young players out there. The men are usually a little younger then the women,not as many players to select from.
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Hockey Nut
07-29-2005 12:01 pm
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joee
True enough about Robyn. Maybe influencing the selection is the fact that Lelia has been training with most of the Junior team for the last few months as a member of the BC Canada Summer Games Team and training with the Senior Canadian Regional team for over a year.
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07-31-2005 12:20 pm
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A Chance
I think every player needs to start somewhere, just because this is the World Cup and she has no international experience doesn't mean she doesn't deserve to be there! Lelia has been training with the team for quite some time now and why not give her this opportunity to shine! She deserves it! She's worked hard. Why not take the world cup as her first tour of international experience seeing as she still gets to go to the next one! I know you'll do awesome lulu, Keep it up :)
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07-31-2005 1:14 pm
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international expeiernce is key. when you have no idea how the game is played at the international level, it will be a slap in the face. the speed and style are completely diffrent. even if she has been traning un vancouver with the regional program those players are nothing compared to what the team will face at the JWC. she was the best selection out of those who did'nt have any expierence.
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08-02-2005 12:17 pm
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Leila has been around international hockey all her life. I understand that this is not the same as actually playing, but the fact they she has seen more international hockey than most is very helpful. I think Leila will preform well and yes she was the best selection and she fits right in with the team's style of play.
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08-23-2005 9:33 pm
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