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By S. RAMAGURU
For more than two decades Kenya-born Shiaz Virjee has been a major influence in the Canadian hockey team, earning himself a name as a coach alongside big names like German Paul Lissek and Australian Terry Walsh. Shiaz, a FIH high-performance coach, is in Malaysia with the University of British Columbia team. STARSPORT’S S. RAMAGURU catches up with him.

KUALA LUMPUR: Canadian coach Shiaz Virjee has one word to describe the direction in which world hockey is going – power.

India and Pakistan once used to rule hockey with their silken skills but that has now taken a back seat as top teams have mastered the art of using power to their advantage. Shiaz feels that unless the other teams are willing to change, teams like Germany, Holland, Spain and Australia will maintain their grip on the sport.

“These teams have mastered the basic techniques like hitting, pushing and flicking to such an extent that they can now do it with such ease and have all the power to back them up. Their play is simple and does not require the great amount of skills that the Indians or Pakistanis possess.


SHIAZ: Questions the constant rule changes
“This power game has enabled them to reach the top and stay there as there is very little you can do when teams are so proficient and clinical in the way they play. They allow no room for mistakes.

“I firmly believe that if teams like India, Pakistan, Malaysia or for the matter Canada want to break through at the top, then your game must evolve in the way it has with these top teams,” he said.

The Kenya-born coach, however, said that although the elite teams would remain at the top of the pile, new teams will be fighting to break into the top dozen in the world.

China, he said, were a good example of a team who would be challenging for places among the top six by 2008. they will be able to challenge for a place in the top six category. He also said that Egypt who will host the Champions Challenge later this year is also another team which is making waves again.

“For me, it is exciting to see China emerging as a force. I feel they will be the team to beat by 2008. They have started to go out and play and mark my words: by next year, teams will be clamouring to play them so they can learn more about the Chinese.

“They are like another South Korea and will soon be a regular competitor in the world scene. The signs are there. The teams outside the big four will have to take note,” he said.

Shiaz has been all over the world and led the Canadian team to most of the top tournaments, except the Champions Trophy. Since he gave up coaching the national team in 2000 after the Sydney Olympics, Shiaz has decided to go back to his regular work and do age-group development. His son, Arif, who is 13, is also involved in the game in age-group competitions.

His present full-time job is as a manager, purchasing and strategic sourcing for a company providing business services for utilities.

Shiaz said he had felt that the time was right for him to quit international hockey after the Sydney Olympics.

“I wanted to pick my time to quit the national team and not wait till I am told to go. That is why a year before the Sydney Olympics, I told the association of my intentions no matter what the results at the 2000 Games.

“I’m not saying that I will not coach a national team again. I'll never say no to any coaching task. But if there is an opportunity to take charge of a national team in future then I will have to look at the option positively.

“For the moment, I am enjoying my role in junior development. I also have a lot of coaching courses to keep me busy overseas under the FIH banner. So, in many ways, I’m still very much involved in hockey but in a different capacity. It is just that you do not have to deal with the pressures of being a national coach. It is more relaxed now,” he added.

Shiaz also said he was not in favour of the continuing rule-changes, some of which he felt were not necessary at all.

“I believe the game has become more dangerous now with all the constant rule changes. I do not for one moment think that these rules have attracted new spectators to the game. There is a lot more confusion in the interpretation of the rules as compared to 10 or 15 years ago. I would like to ask: Why change the rules which have worked before? What is the need for changes if they do not bring about new interest from the people?

“Let us not change for the sake of changing.”

Shaiz was also against the introduction of composite sticks.

“What the composite stick has done is to help the power game. They help you hit the ball faster and harder and you do not need any other skills for it.

“The ‘wooden stick’ has been a proven equipment and again you wonder why there is a need to bring in a new stick which costs a lot of money.

“Are we making the game more accessible to the lower-end groups and children? They cannot afford such a stick. Sure, the national players can use it. They will get it sponsored. But players who train with a wooden stick will face a disadvantage when they go up against those with the new sticks,” he said.

On Malaysia, Shiaz said the country had one of the most complete facilities in the world but had to learn to evolve in the game.

“Malaysia have some very exciting talents and can be a force again. They need to make some changes to their game along the lines of the present top sides. I’m glad to see that local coaches are being given the task of moulding the national team.

“But the most important thing is that you need to keep changing with the times,” he said.
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Sanjeev
01-10-2005  9:46 pm
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Ironic
First he was against the constant rules changes, at the end he's asking to keep changing with the times..
kuchnai
01-11-2005  10:27 am
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We hear this a lot...
The last generation seems to have a problem with the way the game has moved on. The fact is that athletes are better, surfaces are faster and equipment generates more pace-just like every other sport I can think of. The problem is that there are Asian teams which have adapted and evloved such as Korea and there are those which have not. If you're telling me that Messrs. Escarre, Dwyer, Reinelt, Brouwer, Klaver are all power and no skill then you are not living in the real world. They are all slight/athletic and in some cases even short guys who have a full range of skills including deception and elimination moves which involve moving the ball a long way and in the right area of the field. Also non Asian teams are not hung up with players' pecking orders with so called 'juniors' getting field time if they are good enough. The key is a point that he does make( power is a red herring although I think some guys could definitely put themselves in better shape to play) which is that the top teams make very few mistakes which is due to a competetive domestic league (not umpired too softly), good, structured coaching, good facilities and a willingness to work a 2-4 year plan with the same coach.
JFK
01-11-2005  7:20 pm
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Skill
Shiaz does not know what he talks about...
The game is faster but there is definitely a lot of skill around and its not just the ones who hit the ball hardest who succeed. Today's athlete is also sharper when it comes to receiving and moving the ball onto a team-mate or into space.
The successful teams balance things out whereas some teams either just rely on power or just on skill and no smarts.
Shiaz should watch more hockey before commenting.
trendy
01-12-2005  7:29 am
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shiaz
he pointed out right! u guys missed it all.... if u watched Ger or spain palying in olympics ,they just hitting long accurate passes thats all ,i didnt see any stick work or body dodges.............2 goals agianst Pakistan by spain was a long pass from center line and the other guy was almost on the boundry line (as no oofside rule is) and he simply dodged the goal keeper and scored! also keep in mind that weather conditions in europe favours artificial surface ! thats why all those countries like ger,holland,spain are very well physically fit.........
kuchnai
01-12-2005  8:20 am
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shiaz
Nonsense
z
01-12-2005  8:51 am
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physically fit?
What does artificial surface have to do with being physically fit?
re. Trendy
01-12-2005  10:43 pm
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doesn't make sense
I agree with Z, how does the surface that certain teams train on explain why they are physically fit. And one more thing, you said that you did not see any any body dodges or stick work...than in the next line you stated that the goal scorer simply dodged the keep and scored! Is that not the whole point of using a dodge and what better time to use it while scoring a goal. So you think that the Germans, the Dutch and the Spanish are strong and all power, why are teams such as Korea and China becoming much better in the world rankings?? It is not just based on power, obviously the strong european teams are not just power, this game requires an extraordinary amount of skill to be successful, you are the best because you are the best in most of the fields required to be the best, ie. physical strength, mental strength, basic and advanced skils as well as a solid coach. These are required to build a championship team. I think that Shiaz has a few points, but not a totally sound argument. About the composite stick issue...it is like every other sport in the world, basketball, baseball, ice hockey. If there is a market to sell more expensive equipment than the companies will feed the market, and for those that can not afford the more expensive stick will settle with a wood one and since our game is not all hitting the long ball...much less hitting in the game now a days than 10 to 15 years ago, the sweep/slap whatever you want to call it is used much more and the drive. Maybe teams like India and Pakistan that used to use their "silken" smooth skills to dominate need to change with the game and get faster and stronger and learn from the Europeans, they must be doing something right.
the watcher
01-13-2005  2:22 pm
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i think that in reading this everybody should remember that this was an interview, not an article written by shiaz...surely there was some things left out, and the interview was conducted in malaysia so there may have been a bit of a language barrier in getting his points across.....all in all pretty much everything shiaz talks about is right, he doesn't say that indian style stick skills are obsolete, he never would say that because their not, but other teams are reaching news hights by increasing other skills and creating a technically sound and advanced game, while having forwards and mids who are capable of shaking defenders left and right.....and after all the guy does know more about the game than anybody commenting on this thread i'm sure
Hockey Nut
01-13-2005  4:41 pm
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Maybe we should get the opinions of the real coaches in Sydney: Peter, Ian and Toon.
aussie
01-13-2005  6:23 pm
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Shiaz
Hockey Nut

i think you will find that shiaz is a REAL COACH, anybody who casn take the Canadian me to 8th in the world prior to the syd olympics has done very well, where are they now withjout him, 20th or where ever down that far it doesnt realy matter.
comrade
01-13-2005  8:42 pm
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hockey
Shiaz coached the team for 6 years...took canada to the world cup (8th), Won the Pan Ams (gold) and took Canada to the Olympics, Coached World 11 team vs Dutch
Gene- 5 years........nothing!
enough said!
Time for a New coach
Canuck
01-13-2005  9:01 pm
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Shiaz did not coach the Canadian team
Hockey Nut like myself knows the truth. As he said earlier, bird, milko and toon coached the olympic team and burrows directed the team before that upto the 98 world cup. Shiaz organized the program whcih he did very well but it is wrong that he gets and takes credit for the coaching of the team. Shiaz is a good manager and that's it.
Hockey Nut
01-14-2005  2:07 pm
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aussie - see Fiasco
Anyone who knew the real inner workings of the team will agree with Canuck as well. The results were very good, but give credit where it's due for coaching, not managing. Even on the managing end, so much was given to that 2000 group that there was not much left for Gene, let alone anyone else. Doubt if Shiaz could have continued the pace with what was left after Sidney. That's why he gave his notice a year in advance, he could see the future as well.
Curious
01-14-2005  2:09 pm
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Did Shiaz ever play hockey? What level? Just wondering!
Disc Stu
01-14-2005  6:24 pm
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Disch Music
Dear "hockey nut.' The reason that there was nothing left after Shiaz left b/c FHC in the infinite wisdom did not plan and hire a new coach knowing that Shiaz was to retire at the end of the Olympics. The program was set up brilliantly by a masterful coach and was torn down by lack of leadership and initiative by FHC. I feel sorry for John Sacre as he was thrown a team months before the Commonwealth Games and was told to qualify the team for the World Cup. What was FHC thinking?

Lets move the discussion to current leadership. It has now been over 1 year since FCH had a Women’s coach. Is this how to build a program? I am by no means an expert, but I would have to say no.
Peter D'Cruz
01-14-2005  10:23 pm
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What happened in 2000
One benefit of PFH is that those of us who were directly involved can set the record straight for those who have a third party or unsubstantiated opinion.

Shiaz and the FHC board were complicit and share the blame for spending all the program dollars for the men’s national team for the 2000-2001 fiscal year on the team in preparation for Sydney. All the money was gone by early September 2000 and govt. funds would not be available until after April 2001. What did spending all the money in the men’s budget for 2000-2001 accomplish by the team in Sydney? A tenth place finish which was no better than the 1976, 1984 and 1988 Canadian Olympic teams.

There was no money available for the men’s team to prepare a team for the 2001 WCC qualifier in Scotland from October 2000 to April 2001 other than to hold practices in Vancouver. On top of that, FHC’s board did not act decisively to replace Shiaz as he had given his notice well in advance of the Olympics. Such dithering by FHC’s board was damaging to the men’s program then and is just as damaging now with regards our women’s national team program which has been without a coach for well over a year. The process to hire a new men’s national team coach after Sydney did not begin until Reg Plummer’s committee was formed and began its work to hire a full-time coach in January 2001, five months after the Olympics were completed!!!
Peter D'Cruz
01-14-2005  10:28 pm
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Judging the Shiaz men’s national team program
Comments have been expressed that the men’s team during Shiaz’s tenure was coached by certain leading players. This can only be corroborated by either Shiaz or the players involved from that period so it will remain a controversy.

I consider that the measure of the success of the men’s program during the Shiaz coached period is the both results and legacy. By 2000, the team was an older group that would have a large number of retirements after Sydney. Was it the right decision to not introduce a next generation of players to the team after it finished 8th in the World Cup in 1998 and especially after the team qualified for Sydney at the Pan Ams in 1999? The results say that this was wrong as the team in Sydney slipped in its world ranking to 10th from 8th two years earlier.

From a legacy perspective, the genuine failure of the program by 2000 is that this experienced team did not beat low ranked Cuba in the early summer of 2000 in the Americas Cup which was a leading indicator that the team would not do well in Sydney. But, this “forgotten” failure at the Americas Cup cost the men’s national team program a berth in the 2002 World Cup which would’ve allowed the next coach time to rebuild the team after all the retirements after Sydney.

So, the results in 2000 at the end of Shiaz’s tenure as national coach was a loss against Cuba in the Americas Cup final which deprived Canada a World Cup berth, a 10th place finish at Sydney, no money available to the men’s team program from September 2000 to April 2001 and a lack of foresight to prepare a next generation of players that could do well for Canada.

People will surely disagree with my comments, but I am expressing the facts, i.e., the results of the team in 2000 and the choice made to stick with an older group of athletes which did not pan out in getting Canada to the next level in its world rankings.
Tom Harris
01-15-2005  9:11 pm
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Curious Comment
The question from Curious about where or at what level Shiaz played is irrelevant to this discussion.

Many coaches in many sports played very little at a high level and yet achieved great coaching success. The opposite is also true.
Tasteless!
01-16-2005  7:51 pm
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Peter D'Cruz
Once again Peter D'Cruz has shown his complete lack of class in attempting to spin a innocuous story about the transition of hockey to a modern power game into a fingerpointing essay on how Shiaz is essentially to blame for the downfall of Canadian hockey.

It is increasingly difficult to believe Peter D'Cruz with each passing forum considering his irrelevant experience in the game. Not only did Peter never compete internationally, he has not coached internationally. Further, when he had a chance to correct all the wrong doings that Shiaz apparently left behind by becoming a High Performance member he couldn't handle it and performed the common Peter D'Cruz habit - he quit! This sent a very professional message to the managment and players about just what type of character Peter really is made of - 0.

Shiaz coached and developed some great teams in his time as the National coach. He was fortunate to have some talent that chose to grind through a period very simiar to the one Canada is now experiencing. Together they achieved great heights in Canadian hockey and perhaps failed in some areas with far less funding than the current team. Beyond that clearly the one thing you can say about Shiaz's teams is that they were run as a professional operation which exhausted every possible opportunity to create a winning program.

Shame on you Peter for attempting to belittle Shiaz and the Canadian players on that team and the current team in an effort to promote what? Your opinions as the bearer of all truths in Canada? This is not the place for your personal attacks and once again you have shown a great disservice to the National Team. Get a life!
Ronaldhino
01-17-2005  8:47 am
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Re: tasteless
Tasteless,

Rather than hiding behind a faceless name and slamming Peter, why dont you come out and let us know who you really are?
Gwen Stefani
01-17-2005  9:22 am
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Tasteless
Whatever you and Peter have against each other is not my place to discuss. HOWEVER it's very easy for you to sit at your computer, not use your name and bash Peter. How about using your name? And yes I'm a hypocrite for not using my name too, blah blah blah.
Peter Munsing
01-17-2005  11:29 pm
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Meanwhile, back at the topic........
As an American, I take a certain perverse delight in seeing that we are not the only country with an organization at sixes and sevens. However, the very interesting points raised in the articles have been obscured by the manifold observations about what's happened to Canadian Hockey.
So if anyone has contacts in Korea, Malasia, and elsewhere please send them the article and ask them to comment--they are the people that it would be good to hear from.
That being said, Canada's a fantastic country, and has great potential--so good luck at the fixing and show us how!
Brian Foxall
01-18-2005  2:58 pm
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Stop, hit, push without fail!
Most know that in 1976 Montreal held the Olympics. What most do not know or recall was that Montreal marked the first time the FIH decided to hold an international tournament on astroturf. The 1978 Worldcup notwithstanding, the hockey world was beginning to change from sod to turf more than two decades ago. As an aside one could can measure the rise of perenneial powerhouses like Holland, Germany, and Australian and the subsequent decline of India and Pakistan with the change from grass to astro turf. Be that as it may it is worth noting that Canadian hockey for the most part has played and trained on turf since the late seventies. I recall the 1976 Men's National Championships being played on turf (Lamport Field). Even the men's league in Vancouver played on astroturf as early as 1978. It is somewhat dubious to see astroturf as either our panacea or our achilles heel. The problem lies it what we teach and stress to our upcoming athletes. Understand that turf requires not a reduction in skill development but an escalation in skill development. This I believe this is a mistake we have made and continue to make right through the development process. I have seen "provincial level" athletes unable to hit a flat ball. Moreover these same individuals are unable to hit a stationary target-let alone a moving one-with any accuracy or consistancy. Hey but they got the two hundred dollar composite stick and they can hit the ball so hard its awesome. Too bad for us they can't hit the target with any regularity. But hey we can do the tomahawk. Always a good skill for a fullback to have. In an nutshell our ability to stop, hit, and push with the other countries of the world is appalling. We simply do not see skill development as one of the fundamental keys to our future success.

For those who marvel at Shiaz's eighth place finish, one should consider our 8th place finish in the 1978 World Cup where Canada, playing on grass, beat India. Shiaz's accomplishments should neither be lauded or downgraded but seen as slightly better talent pool for the time. Shiaz has shown himself to be a shrewd politician within the FHC since he first stepped on the national stage in 1978 with U21 Juniors. As to his coaching talents one can argue he brought the best out of his atheletes. No more no less. Compared to those who preceeded him and those who will follow it is hard to see him as better or worse. One thing for sure internationally we are getting worse. FHC is still content to pick over a dead corpse with the same vultures instead of moving on-but I have said this before. If you get a chance to coach, make sure you imprint on your athletes the supreme and unassailable values of being able to stop, hit and push without error then maybe we can begin to see a change in our results.
musing
01-20-2005  11:20 am
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agreement!
I agree completely with Brian... in this instance :) . Generally, the basics aren't taught or practiced enough at every level in Canada. We're weak at the fundamentals of hockey. Also, we're generally too awed and praising of the individual with a shocking ability to go one-on-one rather than the individual who makes the perfect pass 999 times in a 1000.

It is very different to go one-on-one with your average club team in Canada than it is to attempt to do the same against the skill we face internationally.
Questionable
01-27-2005  12:37 pm
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He talks about power but there were players under his helm that he did not take to the olympics who had power and skills like a Gacek or Smitty for example.
I guess he has changed his thoughts a little too late.
The Watcher
01-27-2005  1:21 pm
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questionable
Everybody knows that Gacek didn't have any knees at that time, I've heard it from Shiaz himself that Marek would have been there had he been healthy. And wasn't Smitty a little bit out of shape to play in the Olympics?, I don't know, I'm not that familiar with him.
Can Fan
01-31-2005  12:58 pm
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Who's smitty?
foggy memory
02-01-2005  12:11 pm
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Wasn't Smitty the great hope from Manitoba? What ever happened to him?
Trevor
02-01-2005  10:47 pm
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Smitty was an ice hockey player from the "peg"
Fantastic athlete and a lefty who started playing field hockey in grade 12 and went on to play on the junior team and about 15 or so caps on the national team.
he played over in England where he was one of the top scorers every year in the league which include Greg Nicol, Calum Giles, Escaree etc.. and I believe he outscored Nicol one season. He was a great scorer with silky skills and quick for being 6'2 or so.
By Smiity's own admission he should have went to try on the pro ranks maybe AHL or maybe a stint in the big time but picked our sport where he has gone on to be one of the premier coaches in the States and I believe he is currently head coach of the us indoor team and coaching a university team (last I heard it was Georgetown in D.C.).
Many thought he should have went to Sydney instead of Scott Mosher but hey that's the way things go.
Smitty if you get a chance to read this send me an e-mail trevorp@shaw.ca
foggy memory
02-02-2005  11:46 am
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I do remember playing against 'Smitty'... he was gold around the goal. Pleased to hear he's still involved in the sport...
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