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Prosit
10-03-2004 1:24 pm
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KO
Congratulations to the umpires on winning their first knock out
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Ha ha ha ha ! ! !
10-04-2004 3:55 am
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Prosit
Now the Umpires .... Ha ha ha ha ! ! !
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Shut Up!!!
10-04-2004 9:22 am
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To Prosit
Now the umpires! Come on! the game was controlled well by the 2 umpires and the difference on the pitch was the class. The only time that the umpires in my opinion should have been more severe is when Chris Attard tried to hit Kevin. In my opinion he shoiuld have been sent off.
But its only my opinion for the rest very good umpiring.
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Come on
10-04-2004 2:01 pm
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CT if you think that there was some class on the pitch you probably dont know a hell about hockey... from the best two teams on the island it was really a boring match....
Well definetily mr. Jonathan Seychell has class... he s learning english now... and he s sharing it with other people via his shirt
And..... the grate dane got crazy on the pitch..... woof woof...
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Truth
10-04-2004 4:41 pm
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Shut UP
If ypou think that Attard should have been sent off with aa red card for his tackle on Kevin..... which you might be right about it...... what about all the tackles which were suffered by Magro??? He got bathered in a couple of occasions and rabat players were never shown cards, not even green!!! If you were watching the game like i was, i believe you should have seen these things happen.
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ha ha ha ha !!
10-05-2004 4:38 am
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"Come on"
it looks that you were burning inside while writing the above, ha ha ha ha ... and how you turn defensive .... by attacking Seychel with his english, Puppy for his reaction, and saying that the match was boring.
Of course its bl...y boring!!! when you loose the match!!! not once but twice !!!
Ha ha ha ha!!!
PS: with appologies for all Young Stars Players, the majority of which are gentleman and do not deserve my comments.
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To YS
10-05-2004 6:47 am
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Reality
Are you waiting for the umpires to have more shoots on goal!!!
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Shawn Falzon
10-05-2004 8:37 am
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Reply to come on
You could have written "the grate dane got insane"! Why not use some rhyme?
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Truth
10-05-2004 9:36 am
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CT and Ha ha ha ha
You are a bloddy hypocrite...... first you insult YS players and than you write a brief note saying they are gentleman. That is really nice!!!
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James Mizzi
10-05-2004 9:38 am
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Dear Hockey Fans
Dear Hockey Fans,
Don't you all realise that hockey fans from all over the globe see the comments you are posting on this site??
Don't you all think that the impression we are portraying in the international scene via this site is utterly shameful??
So YS appealed after loosing the first match of the two finals...... so what??? what's the big deal about that?? YS had every right to demand an outright victory in the first place but we all agreed that we'd rather play the match again instead. We all knew that in the event of a replay we might loose. And we did...... so what??? big deal!!
So the umpires made some mistakes..... so what??? Aren’t they human after all?? The mistakes weren’t all one sided, at least not from my point of view??
We just have to all keep in mind that our umpires are amateur and mostly do this out of their love for the game in general. Just take a look at the football referees in the Italian serie a, these are mostly professional officials of international experience. Yet still, they are judged week in week out by the press for their mistakes and will probably end up having the video replay assistance to judge crucial circumstances in the near future!
And Rabat appealed for the decision taken to replay the match.... yet again, so what??? They have every right to do so and if you ask me, they would have made a mistake if they hadn’t appealed.
They now won their first double. Congratulations! You always have to start from a double to win a triple or quadruple, right? Keep it up and I'm sure that someday you will. It will be a feat that only few have ever managed in Maltese Hockey..... oh, wait a minute,........ sorry, a feat that only YOUNG STARS have ever managed.
I’m only pulling your leg Rabat, well done, you all deserve it.
Anyway, back to the original message that I intended to forward, guys, please keep in mind that comments on this site are viewed by a substantial number of people and when I entered the site, I was pretty sure that the heading did not read " International, Europe, Malta - KINDERGARDEN" so please refrain from childish comments and help to portray a better image of our game and ultimately, our country.
Regards,
James
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observation
10-05-2004 11:31 am
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reaction
1) Charlie Micallef also shared a couple of very sportive gustures during the match
2) The umpires won and YS second
3) Henry, thanks but have you run out of words in the match report?
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James reply
10-05-2004 11:40 am
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For the record
This year was a treble and not a quadruple only for loosing the challenge cup to YS with penalties.
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Hockey Fan
10-05-2004 11:41 am
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Rabat have finished 2nd in European Challenge!
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Back to Truth
10-05-2004 4:08 pm
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Your sound like a terrorist! The hidden enemy without a name. I appreciate your suicidal comments.
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Ramon
10-05-2004 4:24 pm
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trebles and quadruples
James' comments about the treble have made me do a bit of research. Veteran Qormi players always say that once they won all the trophies possible in one season however this cannot be backed up according to the HAM Roll of honour. On the other hand, in 92/93 season, Qormi have won the treble according to results I found but this does not feature in the HAM Honours' list. Apart from the League and KO victories, the 'missing cup' which would complete the treble appears to be the Super Cup which according to my research was won in the same season, where Qormi defeated Hotsticks 1-0. I have a picture of Qormi players holding the Super Cup. Does anybody know what really happened?
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Ha ha ha ha
10-06-2004 3:31 am
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To "Truth"
Very simple my dear .... you are an a..hole & James Mizzi is a gentleman. so that means that to address you I have to offend James? no way! one other thing ... when you write bloody ....its double O not double D. I suggest you brush your english.
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RBT 05
10-08-2004 1:54 am
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From a distance.....
From a distance Malta seems such a small island. In fact it is, but that does not mean that its people lilliputians, and nullities. They have feelings and due to the result of a million years of scorching suns, the trend have a short fuse is common to all.
Congratulations must go to Rabat, for winning their first double. Of course Young Stars are the loosing side but they do tend to take things a little more too far than others. The reason is that they were accustomed to win and were thought to believe, while growing up in almost regime like manner, that they almost certainly have the right to win if disputing a final. I very much liked James Mizzi's comments ( I remember him a little different), he just about summed it up. His comments should start to filter through to his friends more than anyone else. They are the ones that praise others when they are on the winning end and hammer others when they are on the other side.
Well done Rabat. Not just for winning the first double, but for keeping your cool. This is only another stumbling block, one that can easily be gotten again.
Well done again, and make it a good start for the season, win again next Sunday and we'll celebrate.....again!
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Dave Evans
10-08-2004 12:41 pm
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Ramon-Statistics
First of all i congratulate you on your interest, it is good to see.
After your post i checked our club records and it results that according to them in that particular season (92/93) Qormi won the double, but came 4th placed in the Challenge cup and were losing finalists in the super cup.
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Robert Aquilina
10-09-2004 8:26 am
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KO Final Replay
Following a long summer, the much talked about KO final has come and finally gone. The criticism towards our club was plenty in the whole saga, however we kept our reactions as brief as possible until the whole issue is finished. My comments are not intended to re-open the discussion, but to clarify the aim of our actions that were grossly misinterpreted or misunderstood.
Our stand was from the outset that this was an unfortunate situation and in such situations one has to rely completely on the existing rules and regulations, and all our efforts were in that direction, but unfortunately for Hockey this was not the case for the rest. This was not as some may have foolishly perceived a war between YS and Rabat, this was a test for the administration of the Hockey Association find its way in an odd situation.
The episode is behind us and we emerged winners from the replay as well, this confirms that our first victory was not by chance. However one asks what did Hockey get out of this episode? In my opinion, only negative publicity. Those who vociferously argued against our arguments haven’t achieved anything, accept bad publicity for our game.
What heritage do we inherit from this episode? I can name a few:
1. Now all clubs have to keep all records of disciplinary measures taken against their players and those of other clubs. The Association is practically relieved of its obligations. I’m not saying that this will practically happen …. But! When it does the responsibility is that of the club.
2. Now it is a fact that games can be annulled. As if they never happened! No one was apparently intelligent enough to weigh the gravity this decision, and the effects that it may have in the future. Time will tell!
3. Now there is a loophole that not all violent acts are punishable, we created a circumstance were these may be completely annulled.
4. Now no club can be assured that if nothing happens within 48 Hrs the result of a match is final, there can be circumstances that this will be reversed, and exposing our game to nothing but ridicule.
So why all members of the Hockey Association have always argued against our submissions? The answer is not straightforward and each and every person had his own reasons for voting the way they did. For me the only persons that were clear in their voting scopes were those people who represented YS. They were directly involved and it is understandable that stood by the good for their club. The others, I think it was a mixture. It could have been to protect some friend, it could be to vengeance me personally for some firm stand that I may have took at the time I was secretary of the Hockey Association, it could have been lack of experience in similar situations, or simply not intelligent enough.
We went trough a similar situation way back when we lost a protest even though our opponents (Hs) played an un-registered player. This was clear in the regulations but for some funny reason the decision was against us, preventing us from the opportunity to become Champions for the first time, and WH were declared champions as a result of this vote.
In conclusion may I say that we had other details that we never revealed in the whole process. These details may have effected the sympathies of certain delegates to our favor, but we decided to keep them for ourselves as we had to argue rationally and not emotionally and the benefit of the game in-general was a top priority.
My contribution is, as stated in the beginning, not intended to re-open the discussion, but to clarify the intentions behind our actions and for those who have the game of Hockey at heart to judge all the actions with a rational manner.
I thank all my club members for the maturity shown in the whole saga and the moral support they gave to me and Shawn throughout.
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Hockey Fan
10-09-2004 1:39 pm
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RBT 05
Thanks for your comments Robert!!!!
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Ramon
10-09-2004 1:45 pm
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Henry has cleared out the situation. It is true that in many club records it is written that Qormi HC have won the double but in reality, we were the first team to win the treble because Qormi HC won the Super Cup that year and not Sliema Hotsticks. This mistake can also be seen on the booklet made by the HAM for the inauguration of the pitch. Thanks for your reply Dave.
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James Mizzi
10-11-2004 10:27 am
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General
First of all, I would like to congratulate Rabat for winning the super cup yesterday. It was a well-deserved victory won by the best team on the day.
May I assure you that the squad we fielded yesterday has still much room for improvement and still needs match practice to start functioning, as it should. A number of players fielded in yesterday's formation made their debut with our team. And what a debut! They showed character and big potential when playing in such a delicate game as it always is against the current masters of the local game! Well done guys, keep it up.
As you all know, 3 of our most experienced players decided to try their luck elsewhere this year whilst Rabat had the advantage of enhancing their team's potential with yet another extremely talented player by Maltese standards.
However, anyone watching the match yesterday morning cannot deny the fact that Rabat had to struggle to obtain their victory.
Unfortunately, the golden goal rule had the best of us for the second week running. Mhemx x'taghmel, c'est la vie!
TO rbt 05
1. I did not quite understand your comment. Please enlighten me?
2. And what do you mean when you said you remember me differently?? I believe that I never changed and hopefully, I never will. Mind you, whenever I believe in something, I have enough strength on my own to persue on it and no one can make me change my mind!!!! I am what I am. I'm me. It’s my mind and my sole. No one can change that for me and I will not change it for anyone! I bet you could learn a lot from this if you just stop and think about it. Try it. You’ll see.
3. Why do you think Young Stars tend to take things a little more too far than others? When we have a right to dispute a final, we WILL. We have the wit to protest when we have the right to do so and anyone who does not practice his rights, is a git!
4. Yes, we are accustomed to winning and winning does feel good. Who does'nt like winning? Anyone involved in any game is there to win and noting else. Otherwise, what scope is there to play a match, right??
5. And who are you to state that we...
"were thought to believe, while growing up in almost regime like manner, that they almost certainly have the right to win if disputing a final"
When growing up, we had the best mentors possible that always believed that we could win. And we did! Now its always up to the individual to chew on whatever is placed in front of him then he must have the good sense to swallow what is good for him and spit away anything which could harm him. It is possible that you don't understand what I mean. Fair enough, if you know me, like you said you do, contact me and we'll have a chat about this over a beer.
To Robert
Rob, I don't think that anyone thought that there was any kind of 'war' between YS and Rabat. If anything, I think that our clubs are on the best terms ever just because we know that you respect us just as much as we respect you.
About the precedents, I thing that your argument is a bit too far fetched but anyway, I can see where you are going with it.
As regards the record keeping, you should know that yesterday, we did not field C. Attard not because we where told so by the association but simply because we insisted that the association check their records again since we knew that C. Attard was given his 3rd yellow in the 2nd final whilst the association was sure enough that C. Attard got his 3rd yellow in the 1st final when he was showed 2 yellows in one match.
On Saturday afternoon, we where unofficially informed that we where right. C. Attard was in fact shown his 3rd Yellow in the 2nd Final.
This is just to let you know the importance of every club to keep his records since this could have resulted in a repeat of the K.O. saga.
Anyway, congrat again to all Rabat players and I look forward to meet up again in the league.
CYA
James
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Ramon
10-11-2004 11:49 am
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Purpose of playing Hockey
James I do not quite agree with you when you say "Anyone involved in any game is there to win and noting else. Otherwise, what scope is there to play a match, right??". If my team adopted this attitude last year, we would have withdrawn from the league. I can't say that I don't enjoy winning, far from it, but there are many other joys that I can have from playing Hockey. My biggest satisfaction is when I see one of the juniors that I coached make it to the first team and even go beyond. Sure my team did not win anything last year but I was still very satisfied with the performances of the young lads. There is even one's own personal performance to judge. Sure the team one plays in may not be a title contender but one can still judge success by the effort and performances put into matches.
"The important thing in life is not victory but combat; it is not to have vanquished but to have fought well." - Pierre de Coubertin
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James Mizzi
10-12-2004 2:55 am
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Purpose of participating
Ramon, i think you did not fully understand what I meant.
What I mean is that whenever anyone steps on a playing field, his only aim is to win! If this was not the case, there is no sense in playing. I am 100% sure that even if you knew that the chances of your team to win a particular match where extreamly slim, you would still encourage your players and fill them with as much confidence as possible to win the match.
CYA
James
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Robert Aquilina
10-12-2004 7:52 am
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James Mizzi
There were a lot who thought about it that way, including people from your club but obviously I wasn’t referring to you, we even spoke about the subject, you know.
As regards the record keeping, you confirmed my words. Yes I f… know !!!!! and we even made it in writing to the Association Secretary to check whether we had any suspended player or not. We didn’t have a reply, and we had to call him on Saturday afternoon to get some form of reply. You even re-confirmed what is in my opinion a very unprofessional approach to administering the game of Hockey. So you were informed “unofficially” that’s a very professional way of doing things eh!!! And how are all clubs informed as is required by the regulations??? We will probably receive the notice in two weeks time!! I’m sorry … for me this has become a joke.
You said, and I quote
“This is just to let you know the importance of every club to keep his records since this could have resulted in a repeat of the K.O. saga”
That’s the whole point!! Now the buck has been passed … on the clubs!! But tell me how I will be able to record all cards of all clubs??? Do I have to be present in every match?? So we won’t be able to protest within 48 Hrs against any club who fields a suspended player?? And what if an Umpire gives a Yellow card without even showing the card??? (it can happen and it did happen in the past, say after the match has ended) How would you know???
How the hell are we going to give the impression that Hockey in Malta is administered fairly and professionally??? No wonder so many useful people have left the game for good!!! An old Hockey friend of mine told me that these are issues that cannot be left aside, for no excuse, as Hockey will risk having an natural death, and although I am of the opinion that one have to be pragmatic, I’m afraid he’s right!
Anyways, good game last Sunday, and on a personal note I think that you had a very good game between the post; I hope that you get noticed as it seems that you are going through an excellent patch again.
Have a nice day!
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Robert Aquilina
10-12-2004 8:00 am
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Ramon
I saw your joy after you won the 9-a-side last year which is not so coherent with what you said!! the competitive nature of sport is one of the vital factors for sports to exist at all, and Hockey is no exception, I suggest you take a look at the (whole) Olympic Charter, and since you are a future PE teacher, I think it will help you understand the issue better. The second place is as good as the last ... tell James about it (lol ... joking eh!!)
Good day my friend!
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Ramon
10-12-2004 11:43 am
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Robert
As i said in my post, I do enjoy winning and I enjoy it a lot. Even the victories we had in the friendlies have been great. When you say "the second place is as good as last", I hope you don't preach this to your juniors. To a developing child, that may have very negative implications and as a teacher I know what I'm saying. Sure the junior player that wins and is brought up with that attitude will continue to further improve his self-esteem but what happens to the self-esteem of that child who doesn't win and is continually told that winning is everything? If you make some research you will find out that in extreme cases. some may even finish 6 feet below the ground later on in life.
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James Mizzi
10-13-2004 3:16 am
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Ramon
I don't know if this will come as news for you, but......
We will all finish 6 feet below the ground later on in life!!!!!!!!
Anyway, we do get your point Ramon, but surely you will concur with me that we all enter the pitch with the same intension..... that of winning.
CYA
James
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Robert Aquilina
10-14-2004 6:58 am
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Ramon
I'm aware that you are qualified and conversant in the subject, and my comments were made with a tinge of humour, I'm sure you recon this. It boils down to "every player must get into any match with the intention of winning" instead of "every player must get into any match to win"
I concur with James that we all have to end up there at some point, the only difference is when! and one of the factors that have an effect is how long one have been married! (lol)
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