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Team announcement for the tour of South Africa: 26 January ? 15 February 2004

The Canadian Men?s Field Hockey Team for the upcoming tour of South Africa has been announced. This tour forms part of the preparation for the Olympic Qualification Tournament in Madrid, Spain from 2 ? 13 March 2004.

The 20-man squad is:

Sean Campbell
Robin D?Abreo
Ranjeev Deol
Wayne Fernandes
Connor Grimes
Richard Hildreth
Dave Jameson
Ravi Kahlon
Sunny Kahlon
Bindi Kullar
Michael Lee
Jon Mackinnon
Michael Mahood
Mike Oliver
Kenneth Pereira
Scott Sandison
Peter Short
Rob Short (Capt.)
Suhkwinder (Gabbar) Singh
Paul Wettlauffer

Management Team:

National Coach: Gene Muller
Ass?t Coach: Louis Mendonca
Giles Wheatley
Manager: Dave Bissett
Physio: Kevin Stoll
Physician: Dr. Navin Prasad
Video: Veronica Planella

The team departs for South Africa on 24 January 2004 and will be based in Potchefstroom and Pretoria. The team will play 6 matches against the South African national team. Following the South African tour, an 18-member team will be selected to play Greece in an Olympic Qualification event for the Greek Team, and to participate in the Olympic Qualification Tournament. The 20-man squad features three new caps; Raj (Sunny) Kahlon, Suhkwinder (Gabbar) Singh, and Richard Hildreth; and sees the return of veteran Bindi Kullar following a period of unavailability.

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Fan
01-05-2004  11:13 pm
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Ronny's Status?
Firstly, this is a great concept...a 3 week + training camp before a big tourney. A great way to get the boys ready. Really good to get some more young players international experience too.
Does anyone know Ronny Jagday's status? Has he retired or is he just not available for this tour?
Observer
01-05-2004  11:31 pm
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Well let me be the first to say that I am excited to see how Gubber does. He has flashes of brilliance and we can all hope that he can adjust to the international game. If nothing else, his reputation from this website alone makes this an interesting story.

Good work to Richard Hildreth and Sunny Kahlon.
Another fan
01-05-2004  11:37 pm
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Ronny's status
He's been injured since Pan Ams ...
Google dot com
01-06-2004  12:29 am
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Google's googline
Great to see a solid represenation of players with high levels of skill and determination. I'm a bit weary about the length of the trip - we don't want to party out the present and future of hockey canada with too much hockey, but all in all it should be pretty sweet to the beat to say the least.

Great to see some big names rocking the Canada uniform! Go Canada!!!
Alexandros o megas
01-06-2004  7:12 am
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Canada will need all the preparation it can get if it wants to get a 7th place at the Quali Tournement...and i am sure they will get all the support needed (umpires..) but from what i understood some Hellenic hearts are keen on giving them hell....
gubbar fan
01-06-2004  11:35 am
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gubbar
All the best to gubbar as he has waited a really long time for this oppourtunity and its good too know that he is getting his chance now that his citizen status is clear. It will be interesting too see if he can adjust to canadian style of play, since he is more of a desi indian hockey type player (like the brampton guys). Canada usually plays more of a defensive style of hockey it seems. But Gubbar now is your time too shine and make the most of it.
jim
01-06-2004  11:47 am
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Steve Davis?
where's davis?
Naeem
01-06-2004  12:37 pm
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Good Luck.
Good Luck to Canadian team, it is good to see Gubbar in the team , he is a very exciting player and could prove very useful for the team that lacks in individual skills.
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01-06-2004  5:14 pm
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Naeem
Lacks in individual skills?? Please at least watch some of the other players before posting such crap. There is a lot of skill in this team. They just need to produce the right chemistry.
buddy lunn
01-06-2004  6:37 pm
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good job
hello everybody its is good that team is picked andn good luck to u.
jim
01-06-2004  6:38 pm
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jim
where is davis ? he is at home
hockey lover
01-06-2004  9:04 pm
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can anyone tell about the reason why jeevanjot is not on the 20 man squad he is one of the most promosing player.
and gabbar is very skillfull and his style of hockey can give some strength to the canadian attack which otherwise play very defensive style, to tell my friend who had written desi style that this style of hockey is winning all the matches for brampton(undefeated last season on east coast) and moreover india and pakistan have won more than anybody else in the world hockey playing this style.just by drawing lines on blackboards and talking too much don't win matches.this is what so called coaches do here.
Mike
01-06-2004  9:19 pm
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Gubbar
Finally, Finally, Finally GUBBAR is allowed to play.....thank the guru above....... He will be the highlight of this tournament with the flash of brilliance that he has... He is awesome.... He is powerful..... He is savvy.... Watchout Kenny Perreria, your job is in jeopardy.....
hockey fan
01-06-2004  10:23 pm
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good luck
Good luck to all of the Canadian team and I hope you do well in South Africa. I think you shoul come in the top seven.
wolfman
01-07-2004  9:53 am
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davis! hahahahah just his name makes ppl laugh, let alone his accomplishments!!! ahahahah
Naeem
01-07-2004  11:22 am
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Mr. 1
Sorry if I hurt any one's feelings, especially Mr. 1.
I have been watching these players since last six years as most of them play in Vancouver league. However let me please now say that there are lots of players who have excellent individual skills and can win the games for their team when the situation is tough. They are as good as Lombi, Kunz, Elder, De Noer, Pillay, Abbas, Escare, Song etc.
wolfboy
01-07-2004  11:38 am
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re:mike
just to inform you kenny P. is a midfielder and Gubbar is a forward........so i am pretty sure that Ken's job isn't in jeopardy!!!!! get your facts straight bud!!!!!!
Mike
01-07-2004  4:35 pm
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Gubbar
I thought Ken was a scorer, but obviously not.....he is slowly being widdled away...... go gubbar go.... and what happened to the J. Baath brothers... they should have made it.
the wolf man
01-07-2004  5:00 pm
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wolfman
Seeing as everyone pretty much knows who the wolf man actually is, I would like to say that I do not, have not, will not endorse what the fake wolfman posted above. Get a life buddy, and don't use my name to bash other people.
?????
01-07-2004  9:37 pm
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The Bath Boys
Where are they???? Both Jeewanjot and Inderjit possess great skill and with a forward line with both Gabbar and Inderjit there is noway that the Canadians wouldnt be able to score. Whut is happening y rnt these 2 getting their rightful chance????? Somebody please do sumthin about this????
Canadian fan
01-08-2004  12:22 am
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wolf
Who is the wolfman? He must be a great player as he knows something about everything.

Steve Davis will be sorely missed on the team. Ronnie has moved to the US and has some injury concerns.

Congratulations to the new faces on the team. Remember sports fans this is the team for the South Africa portion and not the team selected for the Qualifier.
Canada
01-08-2004  12:38 pm
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Bath brothers
I am a little surprised Jeewanjot is missing, but Inderjit will never make a National squad with the temperament and attitude he posesses. It is a pity as he has the skills. If only someone could have taken him under his wing and given the right guidance. A promising player gone to waste as nobody bothered to correct his attitude. Sport is 50% physical 50% mental.
*
01-08-2004  12:54 pm
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question
does anyone know in which towns the games will b played in?
Can Fan
01-08-2004  1:10 pm
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Congrats to Gene! Contrary to what a lot of people are saying, I think this team looks great...I do not think that Jeewanjot is ready yet, but his time will come, and I think it was a good idea to drop Davis.....Gubbar will add a force up front...and despite what everyone says about Kenny, he is still one of the best players in canada in my book..look for Fernandes to have a breakout tournament, and his importance on the team will be revealed..

All the best in South Africa and the Qualifier...Go Canada Go!
**
01-08-2004  1:36 pm
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re: question
the games will be played in the towns of Potchefstroom and Pretoria!
Keeps
01-08-2004  3:40 pm
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Congrats to everyone who made the team, Sunny, All the hardwork has finally paid off!!!
Gavin Francis
01-08-2004  3:51 pm
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Exciting Team...Good Luck!!!
Wow, looks like Canada will have an exciting team with the return of Bindi and the addition of (the PFH legendary) Gubbar!!! I'm sure they will help to shore up the midfield and add some much needed offensive attack.

As for the backs, with Jags and Davis gone, they have to be thinner on experience (caps). I don't know where a lot of the new names play, but they will have Robin, Wayne and Rav back there who have played together on an international level for a while....and I guess the other spot will be taken from someone with less experience (unless Mike Lee is back there again???). Should be interesting...

Hopefully the long trip will give the team some time to build chemistry, fine tune their skills and prepare them to compete well in the qualifier. Best of luck!!!

Gav

p.s. Pereira's job in jeopardy??....uh, ya....good one. :-)
the wolf man
01-08-2004  3:59 pm
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Canadian fan
If you don't know then you should find out. It is no secret who I am. The team looks like a good squad. Gene obviously had tough decisions to make in regards to dropping Davis and Ronnie. This team will represent Canada well overseas. Gubbar will help the team. When he played against the US he was one of the most dangerous players on the field. Good luck to the young guys Sunny and Richie. Glad to see that Connor and DJ are representing UBC. Good luck boys, I'll be reading the updates.
ronaldhino
01-08-2004  5:17 pm
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canada team
the team should do well in SA. the SA is not very strong and this will provide canada the confidence required for the olympic qualifiers. the addition of Gubbar will propel the weak canadian offence. his vectors of passing are unparralel to any other canadian players and his magic around the net will be a welcome addition to Canadian Mens Field Hockey... Go Canada Go!!!!!!!!!!!!
??????
01-08-2004  10:55 pm
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Inderjit
Canada

Inderjit is a changed guy since u might have last seen him. This is a guy that is fit and trains really hard. How is he to prove himself if he isnt given a chance? Let him prove his capabilities and then we'll see what happens. At least give him a chance!
meeks
01-09-2004  12:20 am
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Canadian fan
Yah, everybody in BC hasn't seen Inderjit play for a long time. He is one of the fittest guys of everybody on team, and he has changed so much in the last few years. I know because I play with him everyday, and I play with him in the games. He is playing amazing right now, and his temperamant if as good as everybody elses now. Sure he stills gets worked up, but so does everybody. He doesn't go overboard anymore, but keeps himself in the scope of the game. Its true, he hasn't gotten any chances to prove himself, and he really should. He is more skillful then half the canadian team, and definitely on of the fittest. Everybody in BC just assumes stuff, but you actually don't know. People do change...

Congrats to Gubbar for finally getting his chance to play. He's an amazing player and should give Canada the offensive boost they need. His speed and skills are unprecedented, and only a few can match him in Canada. However I don't think Kenny's job is in any jeapordy. He is waay too good to be left of the team, and he will be there until he retires. And by the way, kenny is not a midfielder for whoever said that...He is a right winger on the canadian team and always has been.

As for Jeewan, I agree, he definetly should be on this team. He is more than ready, and should be there for sure. He has always been a solid player and has skills to match many on the team. He is an extremely smart player, and should be there to support the defense. He should get his chance though, hopefully very soon.
ecatalan
01-09-2004  2:39 am
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Surprise
I noticed that Ronny's name was missing from the list which was a big surpise. He is key player for Canada and his smooth and confident style will be greatly missed on the Canadian team. With a team already thin on experience, I would not think it would be a good move to not select Ronny, injured or not. Good luck to the team and Ronny good luck to you when the team wakes up and calls on you.
Ontario Fan
01-09-2004  10:38 am
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Meeks
Hey Boo!
The selcection must have been hard for any coach especially Gene and louis who have a vast variety of players to choose from. The idea of the tour also is great. Just hope we realize that you never waste a second chance.

Maybe Inderjeets tempermanet has died down, but in we all have to remember that in the heat of the game players do flare due to calls and opponents. Unfortunately at last years Outdoor CRFHA tournament U18 he lost it and jumped from the stands onto the pitch. Things like this get the better of him and he looses out.

Jeewon on the hand may have not got his chance today but there are always reasons......great attacker and defender of the game and skillful.

All the best to the players, coaches and the rest of the management team.
**
01-09-2004  12:19 pm
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meeks
I am sorry to inform you that Kenny P. has indeed been converted to a midfielder! and he is playing awesome aside Rob Short to boot!!!!!!!! i am not sure the last time you saw him play forward but he played mid last year in NZ, at the four nations, and At the Pan Ams........believe me i know what i am talking about when i tell you this!
Wanda
01-09-2004  12:42 pm
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k.k.k.k.k.k....Ken
Ken plays right mid field. He has played there for the past year and half!!!
Rick
01-09-2004  11:45 pm
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Ken... P
Ken....please please please retire....your done........my friend
Jomama
01-10-2004  7:41 am
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No excuses for this team!! Gubbar is there, young guys are there, you have a good goalie, experience, and anything Canada could ask for. This is the final test, there is no more development, finally we can see what Canada has to offer on a global scale. The older guys are at their peaks of their playing careers, and the younger guys like Kahlon, Lee, Wetts, and Deol are all experienced players. Even if they do have younger guys on the team like DJ, Sunny, Hildreth, and Grimes, it doesn't matter, every team has their young guys, and more than likely 2 of these guys will be dropped for the qualifier, so they are at a level playing field with every team out there, or maybe they have an advantage by being at the stage where they can put a team together with everyone at these certain points in their careers. I'm just saying all of this basically because there are always such weak excuses for the team not doing well after the fact. Such as....Gubber wasn't there, or the team needs more experience, or so and so is too old, or the coach is biased so he didn't pick a certain player. The team has had lots of time to re-build from the Olympics, and they should all be prepared. For the sake of FHC I hope the team Qualifies and we can finally have a benchmark to use as a way of training and preparing..instead of keeping guys on the team until they are ancient and they finally decide to retire. If younger guys were on the team for the last Olympics, this team would now be a major threat for a medal!!!! But...we have what we have and I hope we've learned from our mistakes!!!!!! Good luck guys...hopefully the venues in Athens will be ready for you at the Olympics!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fred
01-10-2004  7:47 am
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Hey ** guy....what do you mean by "believe me I know what I am talking about when I tell you this"?? what does that mean? Are we not suppose to believe you unless you tell us that we are suppose to? Just a little confused to boot!!!! Believe me when I say...I am confused!!
c
01-10-2004  2:08 pm
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jomama shut up
you have no idea. shut up with your ideas on team building. ridiculous comment on the age thing. try to think it through. oh boy, what a great idea, just get some young guys....brilliant guidance, you idiot.
Observer
01-10-2004  2:29 pm
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Go Canada Go!
It is great to see Gubbar on the Team and with his Skill and Speed Canada should do well offensively. I hope he has recovered from his ongoing injuries.....Canada needs him to qualify for the Olympics.

To Hockey Lover:
Let's not live in the past glory days of 50's 60's when India and Pakistan used to defeat other countries by more than 10 goals. The times have changed and the game has changed...If India or Pakistan keep playing their style of Hockey, they will be enetrtaining but will never win any Olympics or World Cups.
D
01-10-2004  6:31 pm
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RE:C
I think what Jomama was trying to say is that having younger guys developing earlier WITH the older guys would have been more successful than starting them from scrath with the NATS. I agree, some guys should have hung em up a little earlier to make room for newer guys. It actually makes sense what Jomama was saying about the age thing, I think everyone thought it but no one said anything. Relax C, it's just someone's opinion!!!
hockey lover
01-10-2004  6:44 pm
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subcontinental domination
to observer
if u would have observed the victories in 70's then u know that early 70's were dominated by india,then pakistan dominated till 80's and 90's( india80 moscow, los angles 84,90 world cup @lahore then 94 world cup,then junior world cup successes of india then 2 good performancesw in champion trophies by both these countries that have again put these two countries in top bracket and the difference at the top is very thin now,not to mention champions trophy success of pakistan) .
the disscussion is not that what system is best,rather its an end less debate. but the thing is that the people here just try to say that desi style is just bad or obselete,but the reality is that these people who say this here have nothing to show for themselves at international level,moreover in reality these desi guys r also running the engine of canadian domestic hockey.and i think they deserve their share of respect.
raj
01-10-2004  11:49 pm
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India and Pakistan
The Holland, Germany can win the all the titles they want, but I and just about the rest of the world would rather watch India and Pakistan play exciting and attacking hockey rather than the defensive negative, tactical garbage played by the Europeans. Talk about killing Hockey as an entertainment spectacle. The cream will rise to the top eventually. It took Brazil 24 years to win the world cup again after the most exciting team ever assembled in 1970.
Canada
01-11-2004  12:00 am
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Inderjeet
I saw Inderjeet losing his head at the U-18 CRFHA Cup this summer. All I can say I'm surprised he wasn't suspended. Not the best example to be setting to young impressionable players. Is that the type of player we want representing our Country? I certainly hope he has changed his temperament, for his own sake and any lingering aspirations he has for representing Canada. At his best he is probably one of the most skilful players in Canada and a joy to watch. At his worst he is an out of control angry young man.
spectator
01-11-2004  10:27 am
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raj i agree with u that its worth watching india and pak play entertaining hockey than watching those drab and dull europeon games and now better exposure to astroturf a crop of players is nurturing in both countries which will take hockey to new heights.
c
01-11-2004  1:17 pm
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d
d, you don't get it either. there is no strategy in your comment. you can't just look for young guys, you need the best guys, period. shut up.
D
01-11-2004  5:42 pm
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C
You are a very insecure person!! Anyway, so what you are saying is...we should always have the best guys playing no matter what the cost?? I agree with having the best...but I am also saying in the past, guys should have retired earlier to allow for younger guys to come and play at a high level with the senior team and gain some experience. Not a whole team of young guys but a few, it would also give other guys a chance to step up. I realize Ravi K was given a shot to play at a major tournament such as the Olympics, but don't forget he was 21 or 22, other teams have 18 year olds there. I just think in order to be a threat we have to not always be in a developmental stage, and we can prevent this by having younger guys playing more often and building there skill level. I think Gene has done a really good job of this. So "c", can you reply with something coherant, or are you just gonna tell me to shut up because you don't understand??
Fred
01-11-2004  5:50 pm
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Raj, India and Pak only won all of the time because they were ahead of their time. No other team could even come close to their skill level, so they won by 10 goals all of the time. Those days are gone, and unless they change their style they will never be champions. The way they play is exciting to watch, but it more often than not will not beat a good European style of play. On another note, the game isn't boring to watch now, I find teams such as Korea have a fast exciting run and gun style, and they can still compete and beat any team in the world, same as Argentina and Holland, these teams are extremely skillful and very exciting to watch. Maybe you have seen to much of Canadian hockey....now that is boring!!!!!!!!!!
ontario player
01-11-2004  9:48 pm
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inderjeet
Inderjeet plays well, at times the mental aspect may get overboard but recently i don't think people have seen that in him. He had a very strong junior nationals last year out in B.C. and played well in the senior nationals as well both last year in london and this year in edmonton.
Randy S.
01-11-2004  10:26 pm
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Go Canada Go!!!!!!!
Congratulations to Gene and Louis. They have done a great job in selecting this team. Right amount of Experience, Skill and Age. Good to see Canada put out a great team for a change. I had a chance to watch and play with some of these players at the Super League this summer. Great to see Gabbar get in, hope he lives upto the hype. This his chance to prove himself. Hope all the past little while of driving a truck has not put him out of shape. Only two players that i was thinking would get a chance, they are not there. Inderjit Sehmbi and Jaspreet Virdi, deserve a shot.
c
01-12-2004  10:59 am
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kenny and robin started when they were 18, casey started when he was 18...other kids had an opportunity. the canadian situation is unique. you fail when you compare yourself to competing nations. we can't be a 'me too' outfit. we have to be very calculating in the ways that we develop young players and in the way that allows the senior squad to bring in the money.
yes
01-12-2004  4:50 pm
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jaspreet virdi, i concur should be on the national team, his skills are undeniably unique and could prove very dangerous at the international level. As for inderjit shembi, there is no such person that goes by this name. however, there is an inderpaul shembhi and an inderjit bath. IF we combined these two hockey players into one, then certainly this "supercomboplayer" would deserve a shot to play for canada.
Allstar
01-12-2004  6:23 pm
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Jaspreet Virdi
Are you guys serious? J. Virdi is nowhere near Canada team calibure. There are about twenty guys at least that are are more qualified to play for Canada. Don't know where you guys got that idea.
NO
01-12-2004  6:34 pm
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Jaspreet virdi? Is this jesse virdi? The same jesse that lives in Vancouver and goes to SFU? If he could hit a ball then maybe he could be considered. Give me a break. Inderpal Sehmbi is awesome. He trained really hard the last year and gave himself a shot. Sometimes the breaks come sometimes they don't. I don't imagine he'll give up anytime soon.
Meeks
01-12-2004  6:55 pm
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Bath Brothers
Yes, it is true that Inderjit did lose his head, but it was not this summer, it was last summer. Also remember that he was not playing when he started to argue for his junior team. It is a totally different matter when he is on the field however. He is a brilliant player, with amazing skills and stamina. He is amazingly fit, reaching a 16 on the beep test! Most people know he is one of the most skillful in Canada, but msot do not see his genius on the field. He is an extremely smart player and if he would agree to play midfield he would be untouchable. However even if he wants to pay forward, he should be given a chance. He played awesome in the last U-21 Nationals, racking up the goals and was part of Ontario's gold medal winning team. Also at the senior nationals this year, he was a force, although an injury limited his time on the field. He has never been given a chance to play with the seniors even though at every national camp he proves that he should be out there with the best in our country. It is his time, and the time is now.

Jeewan again has been overlooked, most likely for the fact that he lives in ONtario. There are two players that were named to the team that lay the same position as Jeewan, and they both made i over him. Jeewan can wipe the floor with both of these players, though I won't mention names. I have watched both these players play with the national team for the last month or so, and I have played Jeewan for 2 years. I can confidently say that he should definitely be on this team. Everybody thinks that both he and inderjit are really young, but they aren't that young. Jeewan is already 22, and inderjit, 23 or 24. They are going to reaching their peak very soon and now is the time they should be on the team.

As for kenny, whoever it was, you were rightm, kenny is a midfielder, i was mistaken. Thats my bad.
Re Weaks!
01-12-2004  7:56 pm
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I think the problem is not there skills but that combined they wiegh about a buck o five. Thats 105 pounds for those of you dont know. But i agree with you they are no doubt the best players in teh country. These other backfield guys all suck. Long live in Ontario hockey!!!
?????
01-12-2004  10:14 pm
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Bath Boys
Straight up to everyone out there both those brothers should be there. I will be the first to say that Gene is an awesome coach but also a bias coach. Just because Inderjit and Jeewan live in Ontario should not affect they're selection criteria. Inderjit who is being judged by his past has now become frustrated and if hes not given an oppurtunity Canada could easily lose one of the best forwards that the country has ever produced. As for Jeewan i think that just because he's Inderjit's brother thats becoming taken into account. These guys are brothers but hell they can play without each other. Just yesterday at an exhibition game against the USA indoor team Jeewan single handly deeked the entire team and scored an amazing goal. And your going to tell me this guy needs to MATURE??? Inderjit's temper has evaporated dramaticly since the last time any of you might of seen him. Hey MEEKS tell me your at UBC whos better Inderjit or that David Jameson kid?
Wow means Wow
01-13-2004  1:27 am
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Bath
Wow, so Indjerdit tore it up at the U21 Nationals. That tournamet is a joke anyway. Give me a break!!! He needs to represent in a more meaningful tournament.

I'm not taking anyting away from Inderjit (I don't know him), the senior nats is more of a soild tournament than the U21 nats.

The Point
re:wow mean wow
01-13-2004  11:54 am
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junior nationals
In response to your comment "u-21 nationals tournament is a joke anyway". Try asking the players that were on that Ontario team that and other players who participated in that tournament. It was competitive and infact for your information it came right down to the wire too determine the champions which was Ontario over team USA in overtime with under a minute remaining when the winning goal was scored. I don't see how this tournament was a joke. Ontario worked extremely hard and deserved to win.
Awsome
01-13-2004  12:23 pm
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Awsome
Inderjit and Jeewan are just Awsome....extremely talented and fit. They deserve to represent Canada.
I agree
01-13-2004  12:27 pm
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Bath
I agree with some of these comments about the bath brothers, they are really good and their involvement with their junior team is just a great way of showing that they love the game. They Should Get A Chance and SOON.
Ya Right
01-13-2004  1:21 pm
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And the Juniors did what in Hobart?
?????
01-13-2004  3:17 pm
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Ya Right
So your trying to say that they havent improved since the junior world cup which was whut 3 ago??? These guys rise they're game everyday. 3 years is a lot of time trust me i've only been playing 2 years and i practice with these guys. There's a change. Plus if you want to put it that way then tell me what did the Canadian team do at the Olypics in Sydney? Should all the guys that were there be removed from the team. Don't talk bout stuff from the past look at the present and what can happen in the future. And by the way if you dont know whut they did in Hobart they came in last place out of 16 teams.
Ontario Hockey Fan
01-13-2004  7:09 pm
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Bath brothers
I agree...the job and Jeewan and Inderjit have done with the Toronto Lions junior team is tremendous, they love playing the game and love teaching the game, I believe they deserve a shot, but once again being in Ontario is a disadvantage the coaches bias of BC players is killing field hockey in canada..and will continue to do so until someone stops this trend.
Another Fan
01-13-2004  8:45 pm
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To ??????
Yes, that "Jameson kid" is actually better all round than Inderjit!
?????
01-13-2004  11:13 pm
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Another Fan
What do u mean by "better all round"? Explain urself so that I might actually know whut aspects of the game Jameson is better at?
Meeks
01-14-2004  12:44 am
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Bath Brothers
As to the question about David Jameson not being as good as Inderjit, I don't know about that. I mean I've played with Inderjit a lot longer, so I know his game a lot better than DJ's. They have two totally different styles of games.
The fact is that Inderjit is not only a forward though. He is an amazing midfielder, and his game is really interchangeable. Inderjit is seen as a great dribbler, but because of that, his passing and playmaking skills are really overlooked. He could be played in a midfield position or a forward position, so any way you look at it, Inderjit should be on this team.
Jeewan need to mature??? That is such a joke, I would have gone with that 3 or 4 years ago, but definitely not today. He is totally ready for Canada, and what is a joke is that some players who are on the team made it over Jeewan.
All in all, this team should have two guys on this team that go by the last name Bath.
Another Fan as well
01-14-2004  5:53 am
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inder or DJ???
hey, i as well have seen both inderjit and david jameson play, and in truth, there is NO competition!!! No disrespect to jameson, but Inderjit is simply a better player. He is fitter, and much more skill and is unbelievable when gets in the d. he is much more versatile, and basically can beat jameson in all aspects of the game. again, no disrespect to jameson, as he is a very good player, who will have a long future with the canadian team. however the fact is that inderjit is a waaay better player and should defintely be considered over jameson.
PANDY
01-14-2004  5:30 pm
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WE WANT JBIRD
we want J-Bird Takhar on the team!!! He is better than anyone already mentioned!!!!
Bath B
01-14-2004  6:00 pm
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wat about sunny k Is he ok
hello
01-14-2004  6:37 pm
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inderjaat
that guy has issue in the head simple. he hasnt changed one bit i play on same team as him. headcase.......
me
01-14-2004  7:34 pm
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Finally...gabbar gets to play. I used to watch that guy play club in usa when i was little and tear up defences so easily. finally get to see how he will tear up defences in international games now...
shocked
01-14-2004  7:39 pm
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re.pandy
man ur brother can stand up for himself u and ur dad need to let the kid grow and excel on his own. he aint 11 years old no more!
?????
01-14-2004  8:48 pm
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hello
Name urself who r u? Straight up if ur on the same team u shoould be encouraging this guy not puttin him down?!?!?
hello
01-15-2004  1:31 am
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????????
im on his team and im not goin mention my name but he has big time problems. it fact.
Russell Bissett
01-15-2004  1:34 am
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If you guys are going to bash people use your name!! DJ has earned his spot on this team. He's in great shape. He could probably run most guys on the team into the ground. He's got great wheels and has improved tons over the last 3 years. DJ plays good D and can put the ball in the net when given the oppourtunity. Give your heads a shake, wake up and actually watch a game with an unbiased eye. I played with Inderjit at the last national camp and against him at the last U-21 nationals and I will not detract from his skills. He is no doubt a really good player and played really well. However his reputation preceeds him and unfortunately (as I probably know all to well) his reputation preceeds him regardless of his present temperment. Jeewan is also an excellent player. He played well in the tournament in Vancouver. Unfortunately he seemed nervous and as a result was (in my opinion) a little tentative in certain situations. Of course this is a completely NATURAL reaction when put in a situation against top teams in the world and not having played at that level before. His time will come as will Inderjits. Don't bash players on the team that you've probably only seen play once or twice or played against or with at a club level. The only level that matters is the national team and international level when talking about this situation.
CONNOR
01-15-2004  4:33 am
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Hey congrats everybody! You've successfully managed to make this entire comment section about Gubbar, Inderjit, and Jeewan! How about instaed of telling us how terrific these BIASED ontario players are why dont you try supporting the squad that actually made the tour. You are so caught in how "biased" Gene is in picking his team from bc that you dont realise how biased you all are in your precious ontario players making the team. Quit praising these guys just because you play on their team for a couple years. And get a life and quit spending so much time on this site! KENNY P FOR LIFE
a content observer
01-15-2004  5:12 am
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TEAM
finally i think the coaching staff has put up a non conraversial team....

GOOD LUCK to the boys in their preparation.........
PAKistian will win
01-15-2004  9:35 am
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it great o hear the support of the canucks but let face it they face Pak in the opener and they will a lost and the Canada...be honest. Last time Canada play a meanful match was in AUG and they lost.

South Africa tour is good but not nearly enough when other team our in tournaments..

any tkaers?
Can Fan
01-15-2004  11:10 am
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The Best Available.
These are the "best" available players at time of selection barring injuries ...etc.. This is the Qualifier we are talking about and the teams preparations for it. I would hope that the "best" possible team comes out of this core group. I have no worries about the "coaching"
we have the the "best" !

Good luck is what should be said since there will not be any changes made from this core group. Think positive.
Mike
01-15-2004  1:07 pm
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Gubbar
Visit the gubbar fan club and see how he produces at www.gubbarmania.ca

the website should be up and running shortly... It will outline what Gubbar is, where he was brought up and his prowness for field hockey...stay tuned... live video clips will be posted as well.
Go Red Leafs Go
01-15-2004  3:37 pm
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Canada
Good Luck to The Canadian Team..
Another Can Fan
01-15-2004  5:48 pm
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I have Faith
We will put up a good show in South Africa, and the Qualifier...knock him out Canada....and I agree with Connor...support our boys...this is what they worked for the last 3 years...let's go boys...
Wutdaheldusitmatar
01-16-2004  4:48 am
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Quit talking about Inderjeet, he's not that great, I've played with him and his his brother...I've never been impressed. They are the most hyped up players and for no reason. Sure they may be OK in Ontario, but that league does not even compare to the calibre of the Vancouver league, and the Vancouver league isn't even that great. If they were good enough they'd be on the team, but they are not. Bad mouth me all you want with a response, but they have to prove themselves before they deserve all of this recognition. I would not replace anyone on the team with either of those two guys.....and as sad as it may be...I bet half the comments written about them are typed by the bath brothers. Hey guys........quit hyping yourselves up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Anyway, these guys should prove themsleves on the field before they get all of this propaganda. THEY HAVEN"T!!!!!!!!!
Tom
01-16-2004  4:51 am
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If those bath boys wonna make the team, come to BC, play for a month, and prove they can score!!! That's all it will take. Whining won't get them on the team. So far they have no reason to be on the team ahead of anyone else.
There is nothing to reply to, those are the facts, prove themselves!!!!
What about the JWC
01-16-2004  5:08 am
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Inderjeet is an amazing player, he was the best player on the JWC team that went to Australia. If he was given the chance he could have lead that team, he needs a chance. That team had little talent....who on that team is even around anymore...he was the fastest...was the best dribbler, and is a good passer. I would have started him over anyone on that team. There were no good players on that team besides him and maybe Peck and Sunny. Everyone else realized they were not meant for international hockey!!!!Way to go Inder!!!
RE: What about the JWC
01-16-2004  12:18 pm
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I went to the JWC and the Junior Pan Ams, and almost all of the pre- qualifying tournaments, and I still agree that Inderjit should NOT be on this team. Before the Junior Pan Ams in Chile and before the Junior World Cup in Hobart, Inderjit was playing amazing in camps, but when we got to each of these tournaments, it was an entirely different story. He did not even dress for a number of games. He's undoubtedly a skilled player, but at the International level, he has never proven himself, and this obviously counts the most. And that was Juniors not Seniors, which is on a totally different level.
?????
01-16-2004  2:49 pm
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Bath
OK first of all the comments posted on the site are not by either Inderjeet or Jeewan cuz buddies they got fans and we're the ones that are supporting em and sayin that they deserve they're shot. JWC was 3 years ago stop bringing it up. Think about what he can do and at the senior nationals this past summer he tore it up. For Mr. Wutdaheldusitmatar man u got issues cuz i'd like to see u play against either one of these 2 brothers. U'd be in an ER in 30 secs. These guys need they're chance and hell they dont have to live in BC to get it.
RE:What about JWC
01-16-2004  6:30 pm
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The Bath's were not and are still not as good as lots of the players who went to the JWC. Guys like Mike Lee and Casey were better and probably still are.
Re: What about JWC
01-16-2004  7:08 pm
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There are guys who didn't go to the JWC who were and are better than the Baths.
pandy
01-16-2004  9:18 pm
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shocked name yourself
shocked u name yourself, don't hide behind a nickname.... there aint nuthin wrong wit my bro
Big DaDDy
01-16-2004  9:20 pm
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BATH's
Saw them at nationals, was not impressed... the best players from ONT are already on the team... ENOUGH SAID, Bath's are imo over rated... Kalia is 2x the player they are!!!
pandy?????????
01-17-2004  1:38 am
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Pandy is this really you? Jay 4 life
Can Fan
01-17-2004  3:40 am
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Re: Bath's
There is no player that should have been cut in place of EITHER of the Bath brothers. The team that has been mentioned IS the best team we could field, period. Whine and complain all you want but the only people that actually support them are the people that play on their CLUB teams, not the National team, not even the Junior National team. and in reply to "what about the JWC": I don't think that Inderjit is faster than Casey, but then again I HAVE seen them both play so what do I know?......
Vijay Kumar Agrawal
01-17-2004  6:08 am
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India will be tough for canada
Canada and India is in the same group in olympic qualifiers. I think canada will be a cake walk for indian tigers.
jai hind
hockey lover
01-17-2004  3:48 pm
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jeevan is really good and he deserved this chance,how come a player that was in the national team few months ago in that 4 nations tournament is now not good to be the part of 20 member squad.
i was at the nationals this year where jeevan played some very outstanding hockey and ontario coach counted him as one of the best three players on the ontario team.
joel
01-17-2004  5:12 pm
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#13 rocks
good luck boys. hope to see you there for drinks & stuff!
Enough...
01-17-2004  5:53 pm
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Stop with the insanity
nuff said...
So, what does everyone think about Wolves beating Manchester United?
I forgot
01-17-2004  6:05 pm
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Why is Gene the coach? Why is Louis and Giles Ass. Coaches? Why is Dave Bisset Manager? Why is Kevin Stoll Physio? Why is Prasad Doctor? Why is Veronica Video Coach?
Question that people! They are the ones paid to make the decision as to who goes and who dont go!!! Yea I know i aint got no point, but neither do half a u foo's
PAndy
01-17-2004  6:07 pm
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it is me
JAY FOR LIFE, PUT HIM ON THE TEAM, JIGGA OUT
?????
01-17-2004  7:03 pm
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Everyone that keeps saying that Inderjeet and Jeewan "r not as good as they're made to sound" are all fools from BC that might see them maybe once every year or two. I'm not saying that they are better than anyone but that they are definatly good and deserve the many chances that just keep seem to be taken from them. And to whoever said India will run Canada we'll see what happens dont ever underestimate any team. And by the way I'm Indian too.
Meeks
01-17-2004  7:17 pm
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Bath Brothers
Well I dunno who all these people are bashing Inder and Jeewan, but whatever. You guys obviously don't know. Whoever it is who said you play with Inder on the same team, your a disgrace. As for the Vancouver Leage being better than the ONtario league, I don't think so. There may be waaay more teams and such in Vancouver, but it doesn't mean the quality of the league is any less. I have talked to a very senior player on the team who said that the best teams in Ontario, could easily compete in the Vancouver league.

Anyways, enough is enough, thats for sure. What will happen only time will tell...
Re: Hockey Lover
01-18-2004  12:10 am
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Maybe the reason why Jeevan was playing in the 4 nations tournament because that WAS his chance to prove himself.
moga
01-18-2004  3:35 am
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gubbar's fan
Gubbar's always been star and our favourite player since early 90's
Roque
01-18-2004  8:49 am
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Great selection of players, Sorry to see that Ronnie did not make it. Go Canada !!! Best wishes.
?????
01-18-2004  10:52 pm
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Hockey Lover
Ur gonna tell me that based on one tournement where Jeewan wasnt even given proper time on the field and wasnt given a chance to play the position he prefers that that was his proving grounds? Give me a break.
OK......whatever!!!!!!!!
01-19-2004  3:23 am
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Lets Shut Up about the Bath bro's!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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01-19-2004  12:14 pm
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Bath Brothers
They DESERVE it.....
They should be on the team.
Re: ??????
01-19-2004  3:12 pm
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Just like Kenny playing Mid., Mike Lee getting moved up to forward, a diverse player doesn't just play one position (the one he "prefers") the only player you can say that about would be Mahood and Jonny MacK.
russian fan man
01-20-2004  2:28 am
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so do you think this connor grimes deserves to be on the team? And who the heck is this richard hildreth kid?
mumsie
01-20-2004  8:30 am
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good luck
i want to wish all the players good luck in the qualifier tournament
in madrid
i have a lot of confidence in gene and i am sure you guys are going to make it to the olympics
have a good trip in south africa too
shocked
01-20-2004  5:59 pm
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pandy ur useless!
Watcher
01-21-2004  5:46 pm
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russian fan man
Connor has worked hard over the last few years and deserves to make the twenty man roster, he has good speed and good skill, will be very useful to Canada in the upcoming years. Richard has been playing in England the past half a year and is has improved over this time. It should be nice to see how he fairs against top international players.
No matter what people will complain about the selections, but if we look on the bright side, this is the first time in a few years that players have actually had to work for their spots. On good teams there are disappointments when selections are made and this is a healthy thing for Canada.
Re: Russky
01-21-2004  6:06 pm
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I donno who Richard Hildreth is but Connor is aight.
CF
01-22-2004  2:45 am
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Connor deserves to be there!!!!!!!!!!!
BHOLA TRACY
01-26-2004  5:56 pm
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Good wishes for Gabbar
Gubbar's always been star and our favourite player since 1995. He played our club (SAN JOSE 11) IN CA and he was the best of all tournaments.
the truth
01-30-2004  10:26 am
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Bath Bros
There is a difference between having skill and being able to utilize it. Inderjeet has the skill but he's a nutjob. Doesn't understand the concepts of "teamplay". Skill doesn't mean dribbling from 25 - 25 then loosing the ball. He has no concepts of passing the ball...no vision....Doesn't use his head while playing. Talking about temprament...anyone who was at the big apple tourney saw how calm he was there(ha ha big joke) he had to be restrained by his whole team. Wanted to hit some poor guy with his stick coz he couldn't go by him. Ended up being ejected from 2 games that weekend. Having him even considered for the national team is a joke ..nah.. its a pity.
fan
02-02-2004  10:52 am
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noteven
I understand that in some cases Inderjit may get upset, but who deosn't. I think he deserves it and so does Jeewan. They deserve to Play International Hockey representing Canada.
Re: Fan
02-02-2004  1:26 pm
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If you get "upset" like Inderjit does in an International game, while representing Canada, that reflects on the country as a whole. People need to be smarter while on the fielda, I mean seriously, Inderjit makes Sonny Kahlon look Amish.
Fan
02-05-2004  3:51 pm
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few words
I just want to end my comments for this article by wish Canada the best and good luck on thier road to MOQ
john
02-19-2005  11:15 pm
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where is bindi???????
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