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MUSCAT ? Oman notched their second win in the AHF (Under-20) Junior Cup Hockey Championship with a 3-1 verdict over Hong Kong in the classification matches yesterday at Singapore.

Oman having finished third in Group B were playing for the places from fifth to eighth and yesterday?s encounter was against the bottom-rankers of Group A.

According to information received here, Oman continued with the same form that saw them trouncing Macau 5-1 in the Pool match. After dominating the proceedings from the start Oman?s opening goal came in the fag end of the first half, when Samir Omar converted a penalty stroke.

The second half also was no different as Oman kept pressing for more goals and Samir Omar was on target once again. The penalty corner taken in the 44th minute, saw Samir Omar?s direct attempt sneaking past an aghast Hong Kong goalkeeper. In between, Hong Kong succeeded in reducing the margin when a planned counter-attack resulted in a goal. That was the only time, Hong Kong looked good in the match.

In the 63rd minute, Oman scored one more goal, which came off yet another penalty corner. This time it came of the stick of Ahmed Siddiq.

In the other classification match, Macau, the bottom-rankers of Group B, edged out a determined Iran challenge to win 3-2. Oman team will return home on Monday evening.
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hong kong
12-28-2003  4:02 am
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waste of money on hong kong
after 7 mosque players retire from hong kong team . is over for hong kong. hope hkha stop putting money to hong kong hockey .they dont deserved it .look at under 21 result.haha.who ever played in that game should find a place to hide .shame.
Rajiv
12-28-2003  6:58 am
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Hong Kong
What a disgrace
The Lord of the Rings
12-28-2003  10:32 am
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The Return of the King
The King ( HK U21 ) , Will return home tomorrow without the Ring .
Mr. Timothy Fok and Roger Nissim will give a warm welcome to the boys at the airport, Who came back from Singapore without the Ring.
Roger Nissim said , He needs a full report from the players about the
lost of the Ring.
WWW.125.COM
12-28-2003  11:29 am
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AHF U21 Tournament favorites HK U21
HK U21 boys have been train so so much everyday and look's so fit for this tournament . And was also name as tournament favorites . But at the end , they came last in the tournament. So, what is wrong with this boys , who can't even win a single game too. Maybe they went there for X'mas holidays ??
What a disgrace for a team , who was name Tournament favorites and
can't even win a single game.
I just can't believe that , Even Macau have a better results than HK
U21. Is this HK U21 team a going to the 2006 Asian Games ? I Hope
is not true !
hopless
12-28-2003  3:37 pm
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rally hopless
fit.hahahah, under 21 team too proud, no movement, no brain ,not even basic,.cannot even make 3 pass in row.hit and hit. hitting does not win anything,they even struggle to mato do that.shame to be in that squad. I know why arif not in the squad.hong kong dont waste money ,
unknown
12-28-2003  7:22 pm
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Kelson Wong
Thanks Kelson Wong for writing all these negative posts about the boys U21 team. Gd luck in next tournament in making the team.
Cheung C K from Singapore
12-28-2003  9:33 pm
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HK team view, from former hk 4th grade player in Singapore
It did appears that Hong Kong, Macau and Singapore was the only true U21 teams there, for example, Oman men had beards and looked like their full national team, as did the cheats from Iran, Bangladesh and Sri Lanka.
I guess having coaches the same age as players in not a good idea for HK .Mr Arif and Mr Guv can concentrate on playing for the next 10 years, and then start coaching. They can train young kids but this is an example of a stale and old HKHA.
The old ideas of HKHA need to move over an let some new professional ideas come in. Hk needs a full time squad and a schools programme to increase the numbers. Clearly having a tennis coach in charge did not help the last 4 years.
balle balle
12-29-2003  5:52 am
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tee di lun
waz uppppppppp
hong kong favourites u21 r back today ........with a 7th place out of 8th ....they wqeere 8th actually but hong kong beg for 7 th place thts y they gave
HK CHINA
12-29-2003  8:47 am
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where the standard ?
disappointing results. How Roger Nissim wishes his team is as the same standard as Singapore. Why cant hk follow spore system of youth development? Spore team average age is 19, yet the experience the team posseses are incredible. I heard they convincingly beat the Malaysia Royal Custom team which played in the MHL during thier training tour in KL. See the difference in standard???? Wake up HK!!
Kelson
12-29-2003  8:53 am
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pls...
I didn't write any negative comments to U21.....wat wrong with u guys...put all the blame on me...

Note: i accepted the fact that i dindn't make the team
Useless and Shame... of HK.
12-29-2003  10:10 am
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HK U21
Do we have future? Seems all other cities improved alot but we (HK) is now really no future and useless. What a shame? I really want to see the Manager's report of how he will write.... is he going to write how he date Miss Phi....pa...? Is he going to write how the boys got drunk at the disco? Is he going to write how the boys holding or grabbing the girls at the street or hotel lobby? Is he going to write a player's father shouting behind the umpire with rubbish words? Is he going to write where was he the night before playing Iran? Also why they return hotel at 2am while playing at 8am in the morning?
Marco
12-29-2003  10:33 am
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Ernest
Could you please comment something about this? Or perhaps Arif.
positives
12-29-2003  1:33 pm
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Future? Had the tournament taken place last year the results would have been completely different-there are 5 players that would have been eligable who have already represented the full national team. Come on, guys, aren't you all being a bit harsh? The team that was fielded was very young and inexperienced, and while the majority won't make the next grade there are a handfull of players that will be really useful in a few more year's time. I agree that the tournament was a waste of time by the sounds of it, but don't blame the players who have gone and tried their best. The younger players have suffered in the past few years because they have not had their opportunity at senior level-there are several national team players that should have been shown the door after Pusan, but weren't. A lot of people have questioned why all the veterans were asked to play in the quadrangle tournament-it just seems completely senseless. The results of the U21s don't really mean anything, and it is good that players like Mustafa, Kieren, Zaki and Jonny went for the experience, but let's hope the HKHA recognise the warning signals (as they have depended on mediocre results from possibly HKs best ever players in recent years) and actually listen to what people are saying about our development structure. It would help if there were one or two more people on the committee who had a clue, because those that do are an overwhelming minority.
What Happened??
12-29-2003  5:24 pm
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What Happened?
Are you serious about the boys being drunk etc? Plus who were the best players than at the torunement for mens and womens teams. Does anyone know when they get back aswell?
Useless
12-29-2003  7:22 pm
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Positives
You named 4 players but you don't understand that 2 (Kieren & Zaki) will be studying overseas and if you think 4 is enough for future hockey in HK I think you are really very POSITIVE! You should say or suggest more development in future local hockey players rather than depends on overseas student to come back during their holidays. Just like HK ladies, over 50% were overseas student and now they give up Asia Cup because the student won't return to play. HK spend money for AHF cup and won in Singapore (girls) but gave up to provide a team just because the student couldn't return. What a shame!
Mustafa
12-29-2003  8:03 pm
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People who are commenting on us
for those who supports us, thanks a million.
for those who criticise us, thanks too.

even we have lost all the games we played, but in every singly game we gave all we had, it was full out, i was just so happy and surprised by the young boys performance, especially kieran and ian, they proved themselves to be one of the backbone of HK in the coming years when they will represent the national squad.

hey people , this is the first INT tour we went to. it's not a waste of money, result we don't mind as long as we learn by our mistakes, we learned so much from our coach Arif. adn don't forget we have alot of young and unexperienced players in the team including i myself, apart from premier div i had just played against macau and singapore in INT. there is only one player who is a bit more experieced than us who was paul chima who couldn't help much for the team as we couldn't build up attacks for him.

with all my respect, Arif and ernest did a great job, supporters too. and what positive said was completely right. the players who represented the national squad was possible the best team HK ever had. We (u-21) can be better than the present National team only with the correct guidance and support from government.

every team as i knew from their players, they prepared for the tournament as much as double of our time preparing it. Singapore even had one months intensive training which 3 time a day on the pitch and rest of the time was in gym or running sessions. yea it was only one month before the tourney but they had regular trainings 4-5 days a week. that was their routine.

and for the person who said we were drunk and grabbing girls in the hotels, wait a minute, we had been concentratin on games for the whole tourney except our last 2 nites as we didn't had any more games left, so our manager granted us free time and we went to disco, everyone was there, i just don't know how the word drunk got into your mind. i guess you had heard this from our players, maybe it was your firend, maybe he was drunk.
Peter Chan
12-29-2003  8:40 pm
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one more point
Yes, its a disaster that we can learn from. England won the rugby world cup this year but its U21 side failed to reach the final top 8 teams in the Junior Rugby World Cup. That's bad, but it gives us the opportunity to "clean house" and change things...The Dillons MUST go.
JOHNSON
12-29-2003  9:46 pm
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POINTS TO BE NOTED!!!
I THINK THAT WAS A VERY ENCOURAGING COMMENT FROM MUSTAFA, AND AS HE SAID THAT KERION AND IAN HAD PLAYED VERY GOOD IN THE DEFENCE BUT DON'T FORGET THE OTHER GUYS PLAYED ALSO VERY WELL, LIKE RAVI AND GURDEV ALTHOUGHT THEY COULDN'T DO ANYTHING UP FRONT BUT THEY DID ALOT AT THE BACK TO CONCEAD LESS GOALS, THEY WERE NOT AFRIAD OF ANY DANGEROUS TACKLES AND 50/50 BALLS, RAVI WAS NOT THINKING OF ANYTHING BUT JUST TAKING THE BALL OF THE ATTACKERS AND GURDEV AND MUSTAFA WERE STANDING IN THE GOALS IN THE SHORT CORNERS TO STOP THE GOALS COMING FROM ANY ANGLES AND AS PPL SAY THAT GOOD DEFENCE STARTS FROM THE OFFENCE BUT THEY PUT THEIR EVERYTHING IN IT, AND ALSO LENNY AMAN MUSTAFA AND ZAKHI DID VERY WELL.
Future timmy
12-29-2003  10:08 pm
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HK
U21's are meanless other than to say our future is not bright and we need to do something to fix it........Schools, schools, schools, promotion, promotion, promotion......and get Hk Chinese to play....
positives
12-29-2003  11:03 pm
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Uselss-I was merely pointing out a few potential players for the future. There are others that may come through eventually also. Besides, even if only 4 do make it that is not so bad-in other national teams players do not always come through the ranks of junior national levels. And what is wrong with having overseas players? This is nothing new to HK hockey. People have to study abroad but often come back to represent the national team at senior level. It's fortunate that they do-players like Tom Ayers or Chris Marshall would not have been the same if they had not learnt their trade abroad-because the development in HK is extremely poor. Now they are vital players in the national team. Hopefully Kieren/ Zaki will be in the future also. As for what you say about suggestions for development-first of all there needs to be a youth coordinator (not anyone on the existing committee I might add) and secondly their needs to be a competitive league set up either through clubs or schools. All the junior level hockey in HK is so mickey mouse at the moment. Having played at school and at club abroad I can say that it is much more serious than it is here. with training taking place everyday during the week and regular fixtures with other schools that were built up as major rivals, not just randomly integrated with senior hockey so you have some kid playing for a team like KCC's old and bold (no direspect to them, however!) Junior national teams with appropriate age categories should also compete on a regular basis-not just when there is a tournament round the corner. (The same could be said for the full national team also). There is nothing difficult to understand here, is there? The problem is not the players though-it's the administators who don't understand these simple concepts and need to be spoon fed ideas until they actually do it. The truth is, hardly any of them have any experience of hockey outside HK hockey, which is why we continue to struggle through a worn out culture of the game, made even worse by the fact that they are not willing to accept this fact and actually give anyone else the chance to do soemthing worthwhile.
Mustafa
12-30-2003  4:27 am
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Overseas players?
i don't think that they are called overseas players, they are only taking courses overseas, they will be back after 3-4 yrs time.

in this few yrs time we should promote hockey from lower levels to increase the amount of youngsters to play hockey and this will benefit HK in only a time of 5-7 yrs. it really doesn't matter about the results we get, the only way we can improve is to play more of these international tournament to gain more experiences and get used to play in INT levels, we should introduce development systems like the s'pore system with teams like u-13, u-15, u-16, under-18, and u-21s. they play regular friendlies with each other so to make the youngsters get used to high standard hockey and prepare them to tkae up places in their national squad, well they not only play against their junior sides, but also play test series btw hockey giants like Malaysia. i also heard they train regularly almost 6 days a week even though they aren't preparing for any tounaments, they include 25 players and make a final selection 2 months b4 any tourney is up and go into intensive training where they will stay together in these 2 months and train everyday, they go to the pitch 3 times daily and to gym and fitness sessions. i guess it won't be possible for us as we are not full time players but they are.! but we have to get more support and develop more young players as i can't see anyone who will be able to take up the national side until now. we have to do somthing about it, we are not going to drop or even stay in the current position, all nation is moving forward step by step but we aren't if we don't do anything about it then we will only stay in where we are now and never move on.

even the Iranian team went on a training tour in pakistan, thats why they are better than us. we were lack of experience and preparation, we have the skills we need but we don't know when or how to use it or why we use it. we can only learn from play more higher levels of hockey.
to be one of the key player in the team, to be honest i am quite satisfy with the performance of the players, we had do our best, it's just that other teams we a better team than ours, we came off the pitch not as a team which has been humiliated, but we came off the pitch eveytime as a team who won respect. i have believed in my teammates and they showed me and proved to me that i am right. they never gave up, even thought we were three goals down we fighted until the last second unitl the last whistle was blown.

i don't know what people might think, it doesn't really matter as long as we keep on trying and trying. it's no use blaming, the greatest thing i've learn in this tournament is the importance of encouragement, this is the only way to success when we don't play a good and perfect game. no one has ever gave up, including Ernest, Arif, Guv, and even the physio in our team shouted for us. noone should be blamed for the bad results. if you think someone has to be blamed then it's our team to be blamed, not billy/dari arif or ernest/guv.


we learned things and new ideas in few months, if we have more time to master it, we would have done better.

every hockey nation had it's on ups and downs, but if they stop making it better they will never go back up, this is the time when we will have to do something about it.
HK People
12-30-2003  10:34 am
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U21
Would all those who call themself .. U21 players stop protecting themselves. For the god sick speak the truth and remember all the people here is not only complaining and please do understand that we also play hockey and also hongkong people. what we want is to see improve hockey but you people just protecting the official. if you want to improve your hockey, i think you should accept comment and open your eyes and ears to look and listen.
we understand we may be down now and will up again soon but if we down that means we should know how to improve and not protecting.
Alfonso
12-30-2003  11:05 am
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Reminder
1998 We lost 9-1 to Malaysia
1998 We lost 6-1 to Japan
1998 We lost 3-2 to Singapore

2003 We lost 2-1 to Malaysia
2003 We drew 2-2 to japan & lost in extra time golden goal
2003 We never see Singapore again...... to scared.

U21, It's your first tour. It takes time to get there. Work hard & u'll have all our support.

Happy New Year Guys ! ^_^
Bodo
12-30-2003  8:33 pm
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Alfonzzzzzzz
Good man Alfonzo, its true. A good to stay positive with these quality youngsters.

Sadly it was the first outing for all the other U21 teams too.
Mustafa
12-30-2003  9:28 pm
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Alfonso & HK people
HK people, comments from alfonso is like morphine to u-21 as it drains away our pain... this is what we need,encouragement rather than disencouraging comments which won't help us to improve our level.

and without yours and govt's support we will never have a second chance for us to prove it to you that we aren't useless, we will only stay here and prove nothing. so please do support as as i believe we will takeover the job of national squad soon.

why am i wasting my time coming here to explain? becoz i can really see what the players need, and they have been trying so hard just to get that ball into the opponents goal. i won't be wasting my time for nothing. i still believe in HK hockey and my teammates. i swear people who loves hockey in HK won't want us to fail instead they want us to be proud of ourselves and they will be proud for us too!
thanks so much Alfonso! i have always took you as a role model for myself
HK PLAYER
12-30-2003  9:34 pm
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Thanks!!!
Thanks Alfonso!!!
Candy
12-31-2003  3:14 am
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To Hk People
I went to the tournament in Singapore too and I can tell you that all of Mustafa's msg.s are true. We are not trying to protect any officials but they really did a great job, nor are we trying to hide any mistakes of anyone, because we tried our best.

You would know-- all those who watched the games would know, that every time Hk played, whatever the scores were, there were cheers and encouragements from both HK people and other people.

We girls team didn't manage to watch every game the boys played, but when we did, we cheered for them and what we see is that they supported each other on the pitch. The spirit was high-- even for the subs and spectators. The same is for our side. The boys watched all of our games, too. At Delta stadium, we, the HK team (boys, girls, spectators, everyone) were together.

As Mark returns to US in a few days, I am looking forward to our new coach too. Although I was not the first 11 players in this tournament, I gave all I had in the few minutes I got on the pitch with no regret. Our team is serious about hockey, and we aren't divided simply because some players came back from overseas and some were juniors or inexperienced. We all tried our best and we will keep trying.

Another thing, for those who know about me and paul's trip to the Netherlands this August to the World Youth Hockey Festival 2003, we learnt a lot from different nations. The hockey development in every nation is largely different, for example the England hockey launch their Youth Committee just this year, and already have a structured youth development programme, but in other places people are still struggling for astro turfs and hockey sticks, like trinidad and tobago.

I am planning to organise our own Youth Committee, hopefully in a few years time. I am serious about this, and I have the support from the World Youth Panel (we have HK representatives there) I definately need the help of evey young player in HK, as there is really limited power to a single person, and ofcourse, the HKHA.

My point is: HK, don't ever give up on the youths, who will be your future no matter what.

A slogan from the Youth Panel: 'Who has the youth, has the future.'.
New Year's Wish
12-31-2003  9:52 am
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HKHA official step down
I read all the comments about U21 in Singapore and mostly on their result. I am sure that they play hard in every game but they were lack of leadership and Arif (sure he try his best) is surely not the right coach for U21 as he is just 23 (don't get upset Arif if I heard you on this) and this is the real fact. What I like to point out was the leadership in HKHA now is just promoting hockey but not developing hockey. How could we have a team to play a top tournament in Asia to train only once or twice with 2 hours each session to get good result. They were holding hockey sticks not holding a miracle stick!
I hope the HKHA official, mostly those who said they have plan in developing, must keep firm on that not only just talking. The U21 squad who went to Singapore, as I know almost 6-7 will leave HK for overseas studies. And they will return for at least after couple of years.

We cannot depends on them to play for HK during their holidays and we need to have a long term development for youth which start from 12years as they can play for U16 then U21 and finally landed in HK national squad, this is what happening years ago in other countries.

For Candy, I know you have a vision on hockey but you should start it when you return and form a committee immediately. YOu can form your own committee then ask the HKHA to support you on that. Dont' just get their approval then form the committee as you need a back bone to support you.

For Mustafa, as a player yourself, you should not talk too much and should be the one to listen and learn. The more you speak the more you will attract those readers here against you. This is a place which I would say the best place to hear what people feel upset about.

I am not sure if any official of HKHA would read this comments but if they do, please see any positive comments and take action.

I do hope those official of HKHA feel they are tired of doing their job, please resign and let someone who got new ideas in marketing, promoting, developing etc to step in to the hot seat. As this could only the way to break the ice of dead future of HK hockey.

For Mark, wish him all the best in his new venture, he is much better while volanteer as a coach then pay coach.

Wish all the readers a Happy New Year 2004 and HK hockey will be more friendly and constructive.
guess who alfonso
12-31-2003  12:01 pm
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shame
fatty ,I mean fonso. did you watch the game .to comment ,you always beat singapore ,sometimes 4 0r 5 goals, REsult means everything ,not performances,u should know by now.if you lost you , take it like men.forgot you are kids,tell me when you win a game .

If chelsea dont win anything ,the manager get sack ,they dont look at the performances.RESULT mean everthing.
IF you sit an exam ,does not matter how hard you study .result mean everything .sorry boys ,u lost , you take it .
Mustafa
12-31-2003  3:08 pm
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i am accepting what people think we should be, and i am learning, but some comments in it is just ridiculous and quite discouraging to us. so i really hope they will stop this, what u said was right! thanks
John
01-02-2004  1:15 am
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Mustafa
Mustafa could you please stop saying people just discouraging you or U21. There already people telling you to listen and when will you start listening and learn. You are just protecting yourself. You and the rest, including manager and coach put HK hockey into shame!! Top 4 teams will now go to Pakistan... don't you know??? HK not even in Top 4 of U21 AHF Cup ONLY!!! Do you think this is good result? Do you think this is something we just want to talk about and not expecting you guys to do better???
It's all you people saying how good you guys were, how great, the result will be good etc.... and it's prove that you people just going for holidays!! If you guys act as a strong man..no one can beat you ..but on the other hand.. you people act like CRYING BABIES and don't accept the reality.
How shame HK hockey goes into this place, never in history but anyway, you people set history for Hong Kong......and too bad still never learn.
If I am the manager or coach, I will surely resign but this is HK hockey.. no matter what result it is or was.. no one will be blame as they all just playing social hockey and relationship always comes first!!
John Stapley
01-02-2004  6:04 am
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John
john
shame on you

it's a fact that people are writing comment discouraging the players to do better
how can you tell Mustafa to stop
he is not protecting himslef or his teammates but he is just trying to tell you the truth and hoping you people who write Sh*t about them stop writing anymore.
for gods sake he is doing a great job standing up and speak loud to us not hiding himself under his bed and not facing the reality.

and did you read his comments? if yes then read it again! he never protected anyone but instead he told what he saw throughout the tournament so you think before you accuse someone who did a great work for hockey !
shame on you
just coming here to spoil things like this. Go Mustafa
we are all supporting you apart from those hooligans who tries to spoil things
John
01-02-2004  12:05 pm
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John Stapley
Come on John.. I think I am not disouraging you or may be you are Mustafa writing all those lies... speak the truth what happen in Singapore.. be a man and tell the truth!
If you guys couldn't play good hockey and if you think you act like babies and accept the last in the tournament, then that's the future of HK hockey.
Mustafa
01-03-2004  3:04 am
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John
i am outta here already, i am just sick of listening to stupid people who knows nothing about us.

and stapley thanks for your support, we will of course try our best to improve our standard. no point answering to meaningless comments like john wrote
JOHN, go on with it i'll love to read more jokes from you man
Spectator
01-03-2004  6:28 am
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Boys Under 21
A lot of negative comments have been written about the boys under 21 team.

The fact is Hong Kong sent a young and inexperieced team to the tournament. This was their first international tournament. The writer who mentioned that Hong Kong was entering the competition as 'favourites' was over-exaggerating.

The boys gave all they had and tried very hard in all their matches.
Unfortunately, they lost to better prepared sides who had the skills, stamina and class.

What the tournament did reveal was that the standard and level of Under-21 hockey has risen alot in the last few years in countries in which Hong Kong were expecting to beat. It shows that money spent in the right direction such as promotion and development, hiring of foreign coaches etc can achieve the desired results.

For Hong kong to compete in the Asian arena and challenge for medals, the HKHA will have to undertake new initiatives to promote the game and raise the standard of hockey at all levels. It is going to take some time for success to come.

The tournament in Singapore is a wake-up call for Hong Kong hockey. Coming in last is no disgrace. Please don't the blame the boys. What is important now is to go on from here and build for the future.
tom
01-03-2004  10:34 am
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hahaa john
I am laughing at you john . do you know the meaning of hooligans.look up dict .
you are also hooligans because you have put meassage up the board .could not belived how low you are ,calling yourself hooligans.you are young and cheap ,hope u not under 21 players.
Old Timer
01-04-2004  8:52 am
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Be positive
I hope the young players are willing to put their hearts and souls into the the game.

Show your enthusiasm for the game by practicing whenever possible and stop claiming that all other sides players are full time. Very few are, except perhaps a year away from the Olympics, after which they will go back to being doctors, lawyers, teachers etc.

Train and practice after school or work every day if you want to achieve your potential.

If you persevere you will go on to be very good players like the current mens team, and play skilful, exciting hockey. But you do need a good coach, good attitude and plenty of opportunity to play against international sides of a slightly higher standard.

You can get there if you want Be positive and do this for yourselves.
FACT
01-07-2004  12:29 am
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AHF U21
HONG KONG HOCKEY IS GETTING NOWHERE. THE GOVERNMENT IS NOT SUPPORTIVE AT ALL. WITHOUT MONEY, HKHA CAN DO NOTHING. ITS THE GOVERNMENT WHO IS TO BLAME. THEY DON'T SUPPORT HOCKEY BECAUSE THERE AREN'T ANY LOCALS CHINESE INVOLVED. TALKING ABOUT LOCALS, I SAW AFEW IN U21 LAST SEASON - I CAN'T EVEN THINK OF THOSE PLAYERS GOING TO AHF U21 TOURNAMENT. NO DISRESPECT TO THOSE LOCALS CAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE SUPPORT. SO I SEE THE LEVEL OF HK HOCKEY GOING DOWN. THIS IS THE FACT. OTHER COUNTRIES HAVE SO MUCH SUPPORT IN TERMS OF MONEY. THEY GO TO TOURS BEFORE GOING INTO A COMPETITION. WHAT DO HK DO BEFORE GOING INTO A MAJOR TOURNAMENT? I TELL YOU WHAT THEY DO - THEY THINK THEY'RE THE BEST BECAUSE OF WHAT THE SENIOR TEAM HAS DONE AND WON 1 MATCH IN ASIA CUP - THE MANAGER OF U21 THINKS THAT HE AND HKHA HAS DONE ALOT BY GIVING THE PLAYERS JERSEYS, PROVIDING THEM WITH HOTELS, FOOD AND AIR-TICKETS AND EXPECT THE U21 BOYS TO WIN THE COMPETITION - AND WHEN THE REALITY IS AT LAST IN FRONT OF US (COMING LAST), PEOPLE START TO BLAME THE PLAYERS AND HKHA. DO YOU KNOW WHO FELT THE WORST IN THIS TOURNAMENT? ITS THE U21 BOYS - THEY FELT HUMILIATING BUT AFTER THINKING OF WHAT KIND OF SUPPORT THEY GOT FROM THE GOVERNMENT, THEY DON'T FEEL BAD CAUSE THE GOVERNMENT DIDN'T DO ANYTHING (COMPARING WITH OTHER COUNTRIES) TO HELP THE DEVELOPMENT OF HOCKEY AND OTHER SPORTS IN HK. PEOPLE SAY THE PLAYERS WERE ENJOYING THEMSELVES IN DISCOS. IF THEY REALLY WERE, THEN THEY DESERVE THAT - JUST BECAUSE THEY CAME LAST, IT DOESN'T MEAN THEY HAVE TO BE LOCKED IN THEIR ROOMS. THE PLAYERS SPENT THEIR TIME AND MONEY TO COME TO TRAININGS. THE PLAYERS WERE SPENDING THEIR CHRISTMAS AWAY FROM THEIR FAMILIES. CAN'T EVEN GO OUT FOR 1 DAY. REDICULOUS! BE REAL, HK IS NOT THE CITY TO COMPETE IN SPORTS BUT THEY'RE MUCH INTO BUSINESS. INSTEAD OF BLAMING THE PLAYERS & HKHA, BLAME THE GOVERNMENT - IT IS US, THE PLAYERS, WHO MADE HK PROUD BUT WHAT DID THE GOVERNMENT DO IN RETURN? NOT FUNDING HOCKEY. ACCEPT THE FACT, CONCENTRATE ON MAKING MONEY RATHER THAN WASTING TIME IN SPORTS IN HK.
Not Fact
01-08-2004  1:33 am
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How can you say the Govt. is not supporting hockey? Who are you to know that? HKHA always on top in using of KP and most of other ground. It's the management of HKHA not Govt. HK Govt is always open doors for sports but they need to send proposal,, ideas etc to them and request for funding. If you say Govt is not supporting, then where the money came from for hosting AHF in HK, 4 nation tournament England, Japan, Korea & HK... Ladies tournament host a year ago .... Stop direct our peoples mind to other destination... If the HKHA management is good, we will be like early 60's or 70's always in ond of the top in Asia. I am not saying the result is bad but it could be improve.
Roger Nissim took over Con as President and some result was good but this was because of his colleague not him!! He likes to travel to hockey tournament... well... his Korean friend is happy to see him, anyway.
There still lot of rubbish in HKHA management and if they still don't improve or accept this U21 result and make change... we will be in deep trouble. Even we got the best coach still he will leave and nothing will improve.
I think you must be one of those management of HKHA to try to direct us in to the Govt. Please don't do that. The bells already rings your ears.
The Real
01-08-2004  9:40 pm
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oh, their is a tournament down in kl now.. top team from australia, germany, oakistan, india, korea, malaysia, spain etc. i think this is good time to watch hockey.. i hope i will see some people from hkha would go there and ask fih how to improve hk hockey. this is good chance to ask. sorry are they pay by themself or by govt money to go there? wonder who will pay them to watch hockey if they are not going to find answers to improve our hockey.
Billy
02-21-2004  12:31 am
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they have done their job
u know what,what i think is they have done their job
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